Hello nerds, i hope you all have a pretty good next week
Remember no crackers
reddit is so amazing. i open it once and see two highly upvoted r*pe iokes in near succession, and then another post comparing china to the KKK and nazi germany. i think thats a good divine sign to never set foot in these sites ever again.
I was literally just about to post about reddit too, the site is just pure western propaganda, hateful right wingisms, and AI slop now. There’s no square inch left of decent content, it purely serves to make me angry now. And now even this site is following in its footsteps. Is there anywhere left to go on the internet for decent people
Thinking about how only white or rich people have the privilege of being doomers and resigning the faith of the world, because ultimately that allows them to easily give up trying to create a more equitable world, with the comfort of knowing they’ll ultimately be fine in the end as their privilege carries them through while the rest of the world burns, they no longer have to expend energy for the benefit of the undesirables. Yes I feel down about the state of the world but I have no choice but to fight to make it better for myself and others like me, I don’t get to just kick my feet up and hide away from the monstrosities
Been thinking about this, too
Think I’m going to post only here, badposting, traaaa and c/news
Zposter should be unbanned , don’t know why mods are so reluctant to add the :isn’treal-cool: emote.
Because this website is run by and favored towards cracker zionazis who LARP as communists but are libs at best who infantilize and probably never even been friends with a person of color
wellp, our star mod weighed in on the referendum thread and predictably his ultimate word was a variant of “fuck off, fuck you, fuck fuck fuck,” denying any wrongdoing, pouting, and then leaving. Personally I don’t think anyone who tells a regular user to kill themself should be a mod on this site, regardless of how annoying they might find them.
That person is just the standard embodiment of white people: given power they absolutely didn’t deserve and definitely don’t have the proper intellect to handle yet ego so inflated that they think minorities are just dumb and uneducated and even tho literally everyone telling them they should self crit they deny it in favor of their own delusions
yup, it’s that self-assuredness, lack of self-awareness, and the obvious lack of emotional control, plus the two-faced progression:
In this thread https://hexbear.net/post/5878074/6419306
Why should I engage in any faith good or bad when they accused me of “white pearl clutching” when I told them that Zionism isn’t about Jewish supremacy it is about white supremacy
and:
This is literally anti-Semitic. It isn’t “Jewish exceptionalism” it’s just white supremacy. … You are stepping into actually anti-semitic territory with this and proving why we don’t have that emoji.
They repeatedly used the phrase “Jewish exceptionalism” and accused me of “white pearl clutching” when I pointed out that it was actually white supremacy that drives Zionism
(Notice the subtle equivocation) Then in the referendum thread https://hexbear.net/comment/6423603:
I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE EMOJI.
Well which one is it? If he’d actually listened to the arguments in the first thread instead of having a meltdown then he would have skipped the steps where he accidentally parrotted Zionist talking points only to walk it all back later.,
Aside, he owes Aradino a real apology, not this:
And I applaud that as someone that has also contributed what little of my time I can spare to various causes against colonialism including practically all my meager inheritance
—after making this egregious comment and then getting a reality check from Aradino: https://hexbear.net/comment/6420296
He should not be banned imo, but definitely demodded and made to self-crit, I think it would be good for him
This is the type of person no self respecting leftist would take serious in real life. Incredibly childish and a head big with no right to be. I would place 0 trust in anything this individual says or does. I agree a ban isn’t necessary but the power most definitely needs to be stripped away and there should be constant pressure for self crit should they choose to still try and engage with this community. Though probably none of that will happen
Though probably none of that will happen
Yeah I guess that’s why I’m still posting about it long after my first comment at breakfast time, lmao. I don’t expect anything to really change except for we get the emoji and some more people get banned for not enjoying the site properly.
Which, I gotta say, banning people for breaking the “enjoyment of the site” rules is BS. It’s so patronizing, who are they to determine who’s enjoying themselves the right way or not? Personally I enjoy fighting crackerdom, and it just so happens that the crackerdom is coming from inside the house. My blood pressure has been even keel all day, except for a very brief spike of anxiety whenever I see this guy post. Demod Nakoichi
There are clearly other mods/admins who are interested in protecting Nakoichi and probably share similar patronizing sentiments, it’s a bigger sitewide problem. Yes the call is coming from inside the house
The time I do spend on this website I’ll continue to call it out as well, I have no interest in carrying on posting memes pretending like we’re not being redirected through a veiled bureaucracy whenever there’s a legitimate complaint that is extremely one sided by the userbase
Zposter was banned? God damn. He was based af
Yeah, and several other accounts banned for ‘ban evasion’
I know why
what did they get banned for?
For “History of sustained hostility and wrecker behavior. Please touch grass and organize”
Taylor Lorenz went on a weird rant about how DSA were like Nazis because they didn’t enforce masking and then argued that the right-wing is more inviting to different people while the left is too abrasive. Whitest take I’ve seen in a while. Nazis are not friendly and inviting if you’re a poc lmao they can barely hide their contempt and condescension if at all.
Taylor Lorenz seemingly suffers from a case of being terminally online.
IDK what she said, but not enforcing masking is absolutely a weakness and makes an org inaccessible for immunocompromised or elderly comrades.
And that part I agree with. You lose me when you go on to say that Nazis are more inviting to groups of people than leftists when they’re even more anti-Mask than your average dsa member.
The nazis don’t need to be intersectional, they can still be effective by only recruiting white, cishet, able-bodied dudes. That isn’t the case for us. IDK if that was the basis of her comparison, but it does seem relevant.
Here is a post for discussion about the israel emote https://hexbear.net/post/5887493
It took the massacre of over 400,000 Palestinians for leftist to start realizing such basic things.
Curse this wretched and cowardly dunya
Hello, just my 2 cents here - My account was just banned as a “ban evasion” but I was logging in on my “cakeday” to post something funny, I’m a long time lurker and don’t really post or comment usually (this current account is an alt I made to request an old inactive account of mine be purged). Is the confusion because of Z poster and the Z in my name and me being inactive? My name Sharia Law Z is a reference to Dragonball Z and this emote
They just banning anyone with a Z in their name now? Any more random arabs to be caught in the strays?
I feel like I’d be one of the ones that will get banned, will the real zposter please stand up
im Zpartacus
edit: oh god no crackers allowed noo i can explain i followed some struggle session links here nooooooo
We are all Z Poster on this blessed day.
Well, @anon_ascend@hexbear.net got banned, so I guess this is goodbye. Good thing my name isn’t FunkyZtuff.
Wonder if any mod will own up to that
I’m kinda afraid that, because the base of the struggle session was the easy question of whether or not to have the flag of Israel burning as an emoji, the hard question of “why are the mods and admins allowed to just tell a user to die” will be swept away because people will be appeased by having the emoji.
And of course there will be handwringing and pearl clutching about how those unreasonable users just aren’t considering the context, they’re doing character assassination, etc etc.
That entire thread was a shitshow.
لو واصل الغرب على هذا المنوال سيصبح مصطلح “دول العالم الأول” اهانة بدل العكس
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Other day was at the library and I come in to hear these old white women talking apparently one was ranting to the other about something, in response the other says "no it’s totally normal to rant about things just you know ranting about immigration probably not. She says this as I’m 7 feet away drinking from the water fountain. Old white people istg
Interesting after the last UFC how much Western racism is targeted to khamzat because of his religion. I mean hes literally from near the caucaus mountains.
Shows how bigotry makes no sense
Wow uh… Is it just me or is a certain mod being a total fucking cracker in this thread? https://hexbear.net/post/5878074
@Angel@hexbear.net I might be a bit slow on the uptake but I think I understand your “only c/em_poc” policy now
I don’t want to wade into any drama but that was kind of disturbing
Yeah I saw it. I feel like there are certain blindspots with some of the crackers in there. I had long ago bought up a similar thing about brahmins, casteism and brahmins in usa. How such well off castes do carry Hindu fascism. I was referring to kamala Harris and her extended family wealth. Wanted to even broadly mention how such people embed into imperial core and sponsor its genocidal regime. I got a lot of push back saying this was somehow wrongful and racist to point out, mainly by similar crackers and certain cracker in that thread.
On top of calling me racist for even pointing out how casteism and fascism aid one another. They got weird about me suggesting I live in south India and have decently well read on brahminism and casteism. They went on to say something weirdly racist (which I don’t even wanna reiterate). Which is pretty bizarre cause Harris clearly supports rich brahmins and their base, so much so she helped block an anti caste discrimination bill when these brahmins reached out to her.
I got very uncomfortable and stopped really commenting about casteism or india altogether for a while. Cause certain crackers in that thread don’t know shit about Indian politics and wanna be dismissive. I also didn’t wanna be subject to their dogpiling.
Why I say all this is cause Hindu fascists do the same tactics as zionists. They keep labelling their critics as bigots who hate Hindus (they just mean brahmins). Have ambitions to build an Hindu ethnostate with their casteist apartheid intact. They are Hindu exceptionalist. Now to say burning rss/vhp/whatever fascist insignia as a hinduphobic thing is very dumb thing.
To sort of even bend knees for the fascists who have been the most open depraved genociders for the last 20 months (I mean tbh since 1950s) is just putrid.
Sorry I typed I all this. Felt like I had to say it. Felt nauseated reading all that thread.
Thank you, I appreciate that you did type that up and actually it’s a relief to know others are seeing the same things. You are seen. And it’s starting to feel like we’re in the majority here.
Any recommendations for where we can learn more? Books, professors, etc?
I like https://youtube.com/@rohanxdavis
But I only have a casual knowledge of casteism and hindutva so take my rec with a grain of salt
Thanks!
Why I say all this is cause Hindu fascists do the same tactics as zionists.
Literally true, see below
Cw: racism, Islamophobia
https://jewishcurrents.org/auditing-the-hindu-american-foundations-claims-of-hinduphobia
Mayo ass thread
I mean I agree that a burning Israel flag emoji would give fascists rhetorical ammunition (edit: very poor choice of words but I believe in posting your Ls) but agreeing with the antisemitism smear is a step too far. If Norm Finkelstein and other anti-Zionist Jewish people see fit to call Zionism a Jewish supremacist project then I’m not inclined to agree that it’s antisemitic to say so.
Also deflecting criticism by yelling at people to go outside strikes me as disingenuous, un-self aware, and fragile. Maybe this site is mostly for shitposting but I don’t see what’s wrong with using it as a sounding board to figure out how you feel about real life issues, some of the time.
Yeah there are like, 2 valid-ish reasons for us not to have the Israeli flag burning as an emoji. Neither were actually defended in that horrible thread. It’s especially white to browbeat the people who are asking for the emoji as all being antisemites when they were all active users of the site, many are Arab, and none said anything even slightly antisemitic. Also “Jewish exceptionalism” is too far now? Ffs.
Z poster getting a seemingly permanent site-wide ban (no more news megathread for you bucko!) for it was also uncalled for just for pointing out the holes in other users arguments.
Mod message: https://hexbear.net/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=21408
History of sustained hostility and wrecker behavior. PLEASE TOUCH GRASS AND ORGANIZE
White leftists going “please touch grass and organize!!!” as a escape hatch to any criticism they receive. The first part seems like grounds so I won’t comment on that.
See, so I did some digging around, and while it’s 100% true that they do have a history of hostility, among their alts (or at least what I believe to be their alts, I’m not infallible here) it does appear like there was a clear instance of the same mod telling them to kill themselves and it wasn’t addressed.
https://hexbear.net/comment/5311481
This was brought up to a mod who denied that the other mod was talking to the user, but IMO it seems pretty clear that the original message was addressed in the second person perspective.
https://hexbear.net/comment/5379334
Borderline cop behavior.
Hexbear mods protecting their friends and outright lying, again
they’re arab, depending on the country if they touch grass and organize the U.S. or one of its pawns will kill them
But what if theyre killing so they can go to college debt free
dang I didn’t think for that, the poor proletariat troops just trying to do their job and live like the rest of us.
it’s so cruel how the USA wants to fight to the last ukranian!
Also “Jewish exceptionalism” is too far now?
Yeah that’s just baffling. Its literally a jewish ethnostate and keeps an apartheid intact. Has always been Jewish exceptionalist since its inception.
Like damn, norm finkelstein even wrote a book about and got demonized for it.
I guess its too much to ask in a forum with communists !?
It is ridiculous. I can kinda understand where the pearl clutching is coming from because in my own conversations with people in my country, which has a pretty low Jewish population, there’s been a lot of ignorance about the Holocaust and antisemitism more broadly, so I can understand why there’s an aversion to any narrative or term that can be weaponized by antisemites (those sorts of things fester among those who are ignorant about history) but it’s perhaps the most appropriate website in the web to have these conversations safely.
I never understood the ammunition part, the fascists are now rounding up minorities and sending them into concentration camps and shooting protesters… rhetorical ammunition? THEY’RE USING LIVE BULLETS
Yeah I don’t get why we should care about fascist ammunition ever. They make shit up over nothing, we shouldn’t have to self censor over what they could possibly take and run with. Then that means we’re preemptively neutering ourselves before anything happens.
Us dirty coloreds cant understand the winning strategy of preemptive compliance
Agree, something, something the Jean Paul Satre quote about not taking the antisemite seriously we also are one of the few sites that documents the genocide in its entirety, any lawman coming through wanting to bump us off would have done so already and done real harm to people being informed about the genocide.
Apparently we’ve also already been reported to federal agencies and the site isn’t gone yet, so I don’t see why a religious symbol burning would change anything when we regularly distribute images of the zionist flag burning.
Saving most of my thoughts for the inevitable struggle session but shouldn’t we be smart enough to recognize when we’re burning the zionist flag vs. burning the star of David? If one’s in a thread about isntreals crimes and another is a random post unrelated to isntreal, I think we can tell which is antisemitic.
It’s just liberal zionists deflecting, I truly dont believe they think burning an ethnostate’s flag is on par with the antisemitic hate crime of burning the star of David to get at Jewish people
They’re just butthurt and trying to find a “leftist” defense of their butthurt instead of doing self reflection
to the crakkkers in chat
Speaking of the triangle: I just submitted an actual israel-cool, I think it meets halfway without sacrificing the political message: https://hexbear.net/post/5886556
I guess I felt like I had to bend to the moderators’ arguments but now that you put it like that, yeah fuck that bullshit lmao
True enough and very good point, thank you for keeping it real. Definitely not trying to die on that hill, actually now that you mention it I feel like that was an ass take on my part. I’ve thought about it a little more and I think the most reasonable argument is that depending on how the laws go, having an emoji like that could end up getting the site shut down. But that’s very hypothetical and meanwhile, yeah they’re starving hundreds of thousand of children for crying out loud. Country full of psycho killers doesn’t deserve that kind of consideration.
But actually I don’t remember this ever being made a policy in the first place. If I recall correctly, WhyEsEff said she personally wasn’t comfortable making the emoji but if someone else wanted to, they’re free to do so. Then everyone just left it at that. Anyway, I’m for it, and I might fire up GIMP myself.
Fired up the old Wilbur-assisted editing program myself: https://hexbear.net/post/5886556
It’s umm, not very good image editing wise (I have forsaken Wilbur’s good graces), so anyone is free to submit a better version of it.
Lmao, I love it, well done, I think you solved a problem by using the red arrow, that’s pretty clever actually
I definitely have to ween my parents off the news, mom got saying how Mexico won’t do anything about all the crime. Had to explain to her no the news has an agenda pls stop watching ot
I don’t know how older people trust what they see on TV. You’d think after Vietnam and Iraq they would have figured it out. Especially that they would see how the media is complicit in Israel’s crimes.
Nope! Back to believing shoplifting is putting stores out of business (they totally aren’t doing union busting) and Biden actually saw pictures of babies that were beheaded.
It’s the Patrick wallet meme, no matter how much I explain stuff it doesn’t stick. There really is no substitute to reading theory sadly
The boomer mentality is that the US has freedom of speech other countries don’t and while they may have lied about those things it was all in the past. “Shades of grey” and “both sides” are also favorites they use to hand wave the lying and claim you’re over simplifying it.
Good luck. I’ve tried for the past few years and I just can’t get through to my mom. And the funny thing is she says she doesn’t like watching news, yet whenever my dad watches she absorbs all the bullshit she hears.
It’s ugh, I explain to her most things about the news and she gets it but yeah my dad turns on the news end of day and they just got used to watching together.
cw: cringe liberal enlightened centrism
No comments were critical, by the way. It’s all people being like, “Wow, it’s refreshing to see this kind of nuance!”
Nuance? You mean disturbingly undialectical takes?
This is what counts as wisdom and nuance in todays social media era. Was it netanyahu who helped apartheid south africa with their nuclear program? Or was it him that started the apartheid and settling of Palestine? Was it Trump that started funding this project? Great man theory like a mf
Just saying 2 opposites is nuance now?
I’m pro-swimmimg but anti-pool
I’m pro saiyan but anti kakarot. Where is my nuance medal
I found a suspicious behavior around the transfem YouTuber. She randomly bans everyone across her communities. Blind rages are horrible for both the banning person and the people around her communities.
Just started breaking bad and I hate this guy so much
idk better call saul I definitely felt was better on the amount of slurs he keeps dropping is like damn
aside this guy is just an asshole also the suburban white people are unbearable.
Him trying to big brother walt in front of his son… Ngl I’d feel some type of way too. Not drug dealer type of way but still.
Yeah it’s just weird, I know he offers to pay for walt treatment at least but Walts pride and all. I feel maybe breaking bad was also a product of it’s time too. In BCS he wasn’t so like him if that makes sense
I reckon thats how most cops speak about minorities tbh. Especially in the drug trade. Funny that because the biggest villain in the series next to Walt’s pride is the healthcare there. It created a monster and kills far more than the drugs they hunt. We don’t have task forces for that
I reckon thats how most cops speak about minorities tbh.
It is. They say all kinds of wild shit when behind closed doors. The most unrealistic part of crime shows is how considerate cops are of others.
Yeah I see in stressful jobs people be saying out of pocket shit so imagine the one job where have a wall of silence and are at odds with poorer communities
I mean not yet I think
Shit if its a task force it won’t be the pigs.
Me when a wh*te leftist tells me, “I hate my own race so much that I don’t even date 'em!”
Is that supposed to be you expressing that you’re an “ally” to me?
out of all people whites should be keeping to themselves instead of travelling to become sexpats on every non white country they go to