You fucking shit, vagrancy was outlawed in places like the USSR and modern China, but, housing was given out at free to low cost for those vulnerable, hence those “commie blocs” that are oh so scary. Unlike Stalin’s progressive laws Trump just wants to jail the homeless…WITHOUT providing them with housing first
Also wasn’t vagrancy already illegal at least in places in the US? I thought this was already a thing, but Trump just wanted his name associated with it?
It’s been illegal in basically all modernized states and their colonies for a very long time. The exact definitions and status vary by place and time, but some form of it is basically universal in those states.
The idea that the USSR was more hostile to homeless people than a place like the US at the same time is completely unfounded and revisionist, because exactly the opposite was true for reasons the other user stated. In the US, the nicest reception a vagrant might get is to be threatened away, with the common alternative of being thrown in jail and, less commonly though it still happened, just being beaten, sometimes to death, if the cops are feeling frisky. Socialist states generally were more interested in getting people housed so they could operate as productive members of society because most vagrants don’t actually want to be vagrants, though it was probably pretty intolerant to the small minority of people who for various reasons found living in conditions consistent with “vagrancy” to be desirable.
There was a Supreme Court ruling either last year or two years ago criminalizing vagrancy. The governor of California and I think the governor of New York were the first ones to take advantage of the ruling. There’s videos of Gavin Newsom destroying homeless encampment with his barehands.
It is mostly illegal afaik
To add to @Sithlorddahlia@hexbear.net’s point, for a few decades there vagrancy was only illegal if there was a place you could forcibly relocate the unhoused to. The Grant’s Pass decision made it fully illegal again.
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Damn, who’s gentrifying central Spain?
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Looks like post-1991 Russia (and most other former Soviet republics) literally copied this policy, only with Moscow in place of Madrid. Your descriptions are very familiar.
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I think I saw somewhere some statistical tables on population dynamics of different cities and towns, but I don’t remember, where I saw it. I’ll try to find it again (or maybe compile some tables myself based on publically available data).
The easiest approach is probably to look at Moscow’s population. For example, there lived 9 017 415 in 1991 and 13 274 285 in 2025.
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What are we a bunch of Asians
pretends it’s about crime
So like every crime bill cuz they’re created by the prison lobby
At what point will the US public realize that long dead people are significantly less dangerous than the people who are alive and doing all the bad things today
When will Americans stop deciding everything they don’t like is Stalinism?
TechDirt always had an utopian-libertarian bent, but it didn’t used to be quite so smug and fucking brain-dead back in the day.
I have no idea why it’s just doing terrible political reporting unrelated to tech now either.
Techdirt
Stick to tech or dirt… whatever you do.
incredible how far the internet’s foremost pedology website has fallen
so sad…
Literally
Well… I guess they won’t be homeless? I think this is just the version of help that boosts the GDP the most. Its too bad they didn’t write a bipartisan bill where not only do they lock up the homeless, but they make it illegal to use the word homeless and instead replace it with something fun like “outside enthusiasts”, or people who are homephobic.
“internal migrants”
