But theoretically if I had TikTok, Facebook or insta, I would still be able to use it on the wifi.
That is all. Just thought it was interesting
connecting personal devices to work WiFi is insane energy
It didn’t used to be a big deal. We went from being a tiny bakery with one computer to getting bought out by a multinational company. I haven’t been using the wifi lately because of the hexbear thing and nobody lets me stream music anyway
They blocked Lemmygrad at my office, but Hexbear is standing strong
This is a big part of why I think it is a good idea to permit open federation, rather than an explicit allowlist. Gives us the benefit of privacy to browse Hexbear / Lemmygrad content by using a federated instance. Basically allows for infinite proxies and block circumvention. Obviously, this comes with the moderation effort cost.
Lemmy should implement read-only or vote-only federation, so we could benefit from this proxying while also not allowing libs to run roughshod on our beautiful moderators and marginalized folks.
I think it’s better to not require constant vigilance of the admins for each time someone opens a new loli[dot]win instance or some libertarian dreck, though of course I repeat myself.
Lemmy should implement read-only or vote-only federation, so we could benefit from this proxying while also not allowing libs to run roughshod on our beautiful moderators and marginalized folks.
Hence why I thought this was a better solution. We don’t have to let them participate.
I think the concern is their posts federating to our [all] feeds. Not letting them participate in our posts is one thing, but then there’s not exposing our users to their posts.
You might still be able to access hexbear by directly using 37.187.73.130 in your browser bar depending on how it’s blocked, if I’m understanding tech stuff correctly for once
Also this is a huge milestone for hexbear, as we have reached 1 confirmed user who is not
at work
too bad chapo.chat just redirects to hexbear.net
Two (me)
Yeah, if it’s a DNS sinkhole of some kind, this would work.
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What’s more is we just got bought out by a company with a huge union so they have a shit storm coming their way. It would be funny if they blamed me because I go to a commie website
As an IT guy, I would never.
Anyways here’s some proxies to try if you feel it’s worth the effort:
- https://108.181.32.57/?__cpo=aHR0cHM6Ly9oZXhiZWFyLm5ldA
- https://51.159.111.45/__cpi.php?s=YjdMaGNkQXh5bjh2allsMWRlZXBnSHhHODlSQ2NjdzkzUFRyajdyY0ttb0hxSUNEUUVPYVlDYWNjZnJrajJZRzRuY2FYNjNOZXRvcmhLYVFTMzd2SGNNcnFNeUpneEw0dUI5U0JENmU5MFM3aTVxUDN5R3FLQW9jbHpCZHJGZWIwOHUzS1psbXFBQkNJRm1USXVLNVRCTlBvQlAxaFhrTld5Y29CcjlWM3lTL2h1b1d3MVRLY1Y0L0J5aENzeHd0NkdCREtIM0NMcFgybjZpK0EyaW9nTTdtcFFmNHoxcHovN1Y2dWxXUFQxTT0%3D&r=aGV4YmVhci5uZXQ%3D&__cpo=1
- https://us17.proxysite.com/process.php?d=4uKAnK6ArvyiCirOUObJ5g%3D%3D&b=1
If your IT team routinely monitors network traffic and stumbles across these they’ll just block them too and probably pull you aside for a fun conversation, so just a heads up.
I honestly have no idea why anyone cares. We are a bakery and I don’t even know who does our IT. I would guess it’s someone that only shows up as needed
Most likely they use an off the shelf commercial solution with certain categories and it got flagged in one of those categories that IT had selected for. If I had to guess either “social media”, “extremism”, “political content” or something like that. As to why now, either they switched providers or the providers updated the lists and this site was included in it.
I suppose it’s also possible they’re monitory network usage and saw someone using a bunch of bandwidth + time browsing this site, deemed it non-essential for work purposes and blocked it on resource usage or preventing “time wasting by employees” reasons.
That sounds like the people I work for haha
what about other lemmy instances? we’re federated with several.
also i wouldn’t come here on a work machine or network
I just do it on my phone on break. It’s easy enough to just hop off the wifi
my library blocks hexbear and ml but not lemmygrad
you still might be able to lurk https://diethex.net/
What software does this run?
it was made by a hexbear user, here’s an explanation, along with a link to the repo
they fear what they can’t control
Hexbear isn’t blocked at one of my work sites, but it is blocked at the prison work site. Its very funny to me because it wasnt blocked at the prison a few months ago, but after about a month or so it suddenly became blocked.
I suppose memes about killing cops upset somebody.
I dont know a ton about computers, but I wonder if we are making enough of a name for ourselves to go on automatic block lists for people to just copy amd paste. It says something about not allowing French websites
If it is dns, and you have firefox, enabling dns over https in settings might also work
What does that do? I thought DNS was just the friendly name for sites other than their IP address.
EDIT: so the Ai overview for Google just told me DNS over HTTPS encrypts that bar so no one can see what sites you’re visiting? That sounds very useful. Can IT departments turn that off?
it encrypts your dns requests over https so it can’t be inspected by whoever your ISP is or whatever router you’re connected to
They might be able to apply settings to your installed version of Fire Fox, but I have no idea how detailed those settings are or if they would include disabling DNS over HTTPS.
They could block DNS over HTTPS by blocking common servers that provide it, making it difficult to implement but putting them in an infinite whack-a-mole game, or with deep packet inspection, I think, but I’m fuzzy on the details for the latter, so I can’t say much.
By default Firefox and other browsers that implement DNS over HTTPS check a canary domain and if they can’t reach it they assume they’re in an enterprise and act respectfully and fall back to the suggested DNS server pushed by their gateway. That canary domain is obviously part of all encrypted DNS blocklists. On desktop you can choose to try and override but lists of the common DOH providers are readily available for free. I block them myself on my network because I run my own DNS resolver with ad blocking and don’t want anything bypassing it to phone home its analytics.
Put a VPN on your phone and browse it that way, should get you around the block since all your traffic will look like its going to the VPN. Though, maybe they block VPNs.
I got a better idea, Phone hotspot. I have unlimited hotspot data and don’t pay anything extra for it, it came with the base plan. The wifi is good enough for my needs to not even own a router at home
An easy, free way to do this is to setup a wireguard tunnel between your phone and a desktop or always-on machine inside your home or some cloud provider.
Tailscale can do this out of the box.
Yes, Tailscale is dead simple, but the coordination server is proprietary, so Headscale is what I use.
all these years of using tailscale and i’ve never even heard of headscale… amazing
I just hop off the wifi. I do have a VPN on my phone though
So they blocked browsers or hexbear and other sites?
Hexbear is the only one I’ve noticed but I only go to a couple places on the internet
Maybe access it using that Google translate trick?
I used to go on Reddit using google docs in high school
Wonder if that still works. I have no idea why that worked. Maybe it’s just like a snapshot?
I bet it does, and you might be able to use Google Translate to load the site as well.