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tomasz@lemmy.ml to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

Bro do I have bad news to tell them about the Russian government's viewpoint on LGBT people

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Bro do I have bad news to tell them about the Russian government's viewpoint on LGBT people

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tomasz@lemmy.ml to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago
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    internet weirdo invents new irreconcilable political position, demands people yell at them

    tale as old as time

    • SimulatedLiberalism [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      I mean, plenty of communists (including here) support Russia’s anti-imperialist goals against NATO. The idea that countries like Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and Syria deserve to be bombed because they are socially conservative is simply ridiculous.

      Besides, the idea that progressive and LGBT movements can only happen by aligning with the Western bloc is quite frankly, chauvinist. Look at Cuba - 50 years of isolation from Western imperialism and still able to develope a progressive culture more than anything America and Europe can pretend to be.

      If anything, US/NATO imperialism has directly resulted in the oppression and murder of far too many progressive movements across the developing world, more than anything Russia can ever hope to achieve, which led to the rise of conservative governments in those countries in the first place.

      This is why Mao stressed so much about identifying the principal contradiction, because without which you will always play into the hands of perpetuating capitalism and imperialism.

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        I agree with what you’re saying, but the person who posted that is definitely an internet weirdo begging to be yelled at

      • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Can action against imperialist states be anti-imperialist if the result of victory in that action is growing your own empire?

        • SkolShakedown [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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          on paper no, but any action against American hegemony is net anti-imperialist. America just is that bad.

          • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            Fair enough

        • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          There’s only one empire on earth currently

        • GaveUp [she/her]@hexbear.net
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          The empire died over a century ago

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          when your empire is a lot smaller and weaker, I would argue so. less leverage to subjugate people.

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          I mean, Russia isn’t creating an empire, so it’s a moot point

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      Many Such Cases!

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      michael-laugh this is perfect. I was scrolling wondering what to even say about this. Glad you nailed it and saved me from whatever i was going to put together

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      It is but thesis meeting antithesis and forming synthesis.

      spoiler

      zizek-theory

      • LanyrdSkynrd [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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        You’re getting spit all over me

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