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    just saying this would be reason enough for him to lose his job in any civilized country

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    Yeah that’s called escalating. If the Nazi’s policy is to kill on sight, the solution is to kill the Nazi before it sees you.

    That dude is basically ordering Florida civilians to engage cops in guerilla warfare.

    Nice police-work, dipshit. 👍

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    There it is. Law enforcement has openly declared to kill protesters. You now know that you must fight them like your life depends on it, because they have admitted their intent.

    This is exactly the behavior your 2nd amendment rights are meant to protect you from. They are ready & excited to kill you. What are you willing to do to stop them?

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        No shade, but this is a simplistic understanding of the dynamics at play.

        Protests go like this : slow & joyful start, march, sing, march some more, have a good time, then at some point a smoke grenade triggers somewhere behind you. Did anyone see where it came from? If someone did, their eyewitness account is immediately drowned in the crowd trying the flee from the fumes. Some light panic ensues : not everybody knows what the movement is about, what the danger is, and that’s very scary. The handful of people who saw the cop roll the grenade shout, or possibly send it back towards the cop line. This small commotion is used as casus belli, because that’s all they’re waiting for : an excuse to beat people to death.

        This is from experience of protests in France (mostly Marseille)

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        English might be my second language but I think both of you are agreeing that the police said they’re gonna kill people

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    All I hear is if you want to attack us make sure you kill us because if you don’t we will kill you

    Is that the message sheriff donut?

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    Profoundly stupid for this fool to show his face on camera while openly threatening to kill American citizens.

    But he’s a Trump supporter, so being profoundly stupid is par for the course.

    If things actually did pop off in this country, anyone that has shown their face on camera in opposition to the American people will not be safe.

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    I hope the reply from protestors is…

    We will kill you

    If you forget that you are public servants, and you ignore our Constitutional rights, then you have no authority under that same Constitution.

    If you hit one of us, then we are going to hit back, and we outnumber you 50-1. If you let the dogs loose on us, then we will kill the dogs, and the officer that looses them, as this is a lethal action with the intent of bodily harm.

    If you gas us, or shoot us with “less lethal” weapons, then we will defend ourselves with as much force as necessary. We are exercising our rights as citizens, you are public servants with the express purpose of protecting citizens and upholding our rights. Police authority is written on the back of the social contract that enshrines our rights. You can’t rip up one without ripping up the other.

    See you motheruckers on the street.

    PS. Every protestor there ought to show up with an open carry, preferably a longarm.

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      Check your local laws before you open carry. Many cities have outlawed open carry. I’m not even allowed to have a baseball bat in San Diego.

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          Because you’ll be the only one carrying, so they will just arrest you on sight for breaking the law. You have to be thoughtful, they don’t.

          You need a critical mass to do that, which we don’t have quite yet.

          Also if we get a critical mass, then the NG and Marines get deployed.

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            Once the NG/Marines get involved, America is completely fucked. The protestors may still outnumber the LEO’s but they have the weapons, training, and experience that evens the playing field.

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          For about 30 seconds till they shoot you first for breaking local statutes.

          They don’t have to think about their actions, theirs are protected. You have to think about yours. Without outnumbering them 10 to 1, then you’re just throwing away both those rights, and your life. Best case you end up a felon with no 2nd amendment rights. Worst case you end up dead.

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          Only matters if you show up as an organized armed force; if it’s just you, they’ll just shoot you.

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      I can appreciate and agree with this to some extent, but the entire point of this is to provoke exactly that reaction so that they can justify the horrors they want to carry out.

      I can’t think of a counter except to be willing to be the first side shot. then clear out, then the NEXT day return armed. Put that space in there, a clear timeline of how the violence started, who started it, something of record. THEN you come back.

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    This is why I went from supporting gun control to not supporting it anymore. Cops should absolutely fear armed protesters in all countries.

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      Yup.

      Been for strict gun control all my life. And, in a decent country, I still would be.

      But this isn’t a decent country. It’s a country full of low-IQ fools and fascists and racists, so it’s time to get armed and prepare for the worst, which appears to be where we’re headed.

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        Tanks can burn

        Jets struggle against individual personnel

        I don’t really give a damn about nukes because it sounds like a fast death

        You cannot occupy an area without exposed boots on the ground and those footsoldiers are absolutely susceptible to small arms

        Stop giving up because it sounds hard

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          How do you fight the NSA though? Whne they tag you as a dissident, and the government freezes your assets and accounts. You are denied medical treatment and employment. Added to no fly lists, no travel lists etc etc. This is how the fascists maintain control, using the ‘security’ apparatus. This is what you have to contend with.

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          Afghanistan was even worse. People often think the Vietnamese were just the Vietcong but often forget that North Vietnam had an army and an air force. The North Vietnamese airforce had far more fighter aces than the US (with the top ace having shot down 9 US aircraft).

          Afghanistan with the Taliban had next to nothing. Even when the US tightly controlled ammonium nitrate, which was the mainstay of IEDs they were able to switch to other stuff.

          This is in addition to tons upon tons of explosives salvaged from UXOs dating as far back as the Soviet-Afghan war.

          A true rebellion in the US would be actually be far deadlier. Americans are much richer than Afghanis ever were and have a fuckload more at their disposal. This is also not discounting that foreign elements who want to see the Trump regime toppled would be more than happy to send in tons of material to whatever opposing side exists, meaning they may not need to rely on shitty IED for long and would have proper factory made explosives and other weapons available.

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          This is a bit disengenuous though. Vietnam was a war on foreign soil. The vietcong did not have to win, they just had to male it politically and financially untenable for the US to carry on. Same with Afghanistan. It will never be politically or financially untenable for the fascists to keep suppressing the citizens.

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        1 sniper can kill many, many enemy officers. This is a historical precedent.

        You don’t need heavy artillery to wage guerilla warfare and cripple an enemy’s operational capabilities.

        A bunch of farmers in Vietnam outlasted us using those tactics.

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          You’re not wrong. But with today’s tech its more unlikely that one sniper is going to be as effective. With drones equipped with IR it’s a lot harder to stay hidden. And in a more urban environment, there are cameras everywhere, and the police have access to everyone’s ring doorbell camera, its getting a lot easier for them to track people down.

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        Im so sick of this argument. Tell me again how we were defeated in Afghanistan? The US military has a horrible track record when fighting against insurgents and guerrillas.

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          The US is Rome and we are Hannibal’s Army, as long as we don’t choke and refuse to sac Rome we absolutely have the an advantage in a lot of ways

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        I’ll let you know as soon as a nuclear armed submarine is rolling down my block

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    I’m not sure what the intended effect of this statement is… But what I can tell you, is that bringing firearms to Florida protest seems to be mandatory. The police should be shot on sight during an escalation. Because if you don’t, they are gonna use any excuse to do the same to us. The rule of law only works if we can all agree to not murder each other.

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      …also dunno. Like, are they telling people to commit? That’s what it sounds like. If you dare try to fight for your country, we will try to murdrr you - so you need to be ready to actually fight because there’s nowgere to run.

      Do they know what animals do when pushed into a corner?

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      Open carry rifles is probably the best way to keep the cops from escalating. If any group is planning on having open carry members, make sure they aren’t plants and make sure they know proper trigger discipline. Make sure that no media sees them taking aim first or idly fingering the trigger. Do not have them in the middle of the group. Make sure that they are prepped to answer any questions clearly and directly to any press.

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    Well, you heard it here. It’s perfectly fine to shoot cops with AR-15s if they shoot you with rubber bullets. If they can kill you for tossing a brick, you can kill them for shooting people unprovoked with “less lethal” munitions. Those rubber bullets are just as dangerous as bricks, and the cops are shooting them with impunity. By their own logic, any officer that shoots a rubber bullet at someone deserves to have their head blown off.

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        slight difference in de-escalation training though. Our police has years of civil-work-courses before they are allowed on the streets. Also gun culture is night and day, cops here dont feel urged to use lethal force, because criminals most of the times are unarmed here

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          I’ve seen videos of German police treating your protestors the same way US cops treat us. The only cops I’ve seen that seem to genuinely fear the people are the French, and as an American I understand being terrified of the French.

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            What I have seen from the LA protests, we have nothing on the americans. I am certain they’ll fight back just as fiercely as we do on a regular sunday, except they’re arguably at more risk given the prevalence of firearms and the late stage fascisation of their police.

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                Je me suis posé la question récemment : à quoi tient la culture de la manifestation et de l’antifascisme ? a-t-elle besoin d’un maintien régulier ? et lorsque que cette culture est laissée dormante pendant un certain temps, que faut-il pour la réactiver ? malheureusement je pense que la souffrance fait partie de la réponse. Des gens vont perdre leurs yeux, d’autres leurs droits, d’autres la vie. À chaque crime commis par les condés la vapeur va monter, la lutte s’intensifier. Viendra un moment où le peuple manifestant devra submerger la partie adverse. Mais cela peut-il seulement se produire dans un pays avec un tel appareil de répression armée ?

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                  Cela arrivera. Nous avons plus d’armes à feu que de personnes détenues par des particuliers. Comme l’a dit un jour Thomas Jefferson : « Les racines de l’arbre de la liberté doivent être rafraîchies par le sang des tyrans. »

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        God, I have read this title wrong. I read that Germany will equip policedog with Tasers. I was already picturing German Shepherds running at people with tasers in their mouth.

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        If it’s anything like last time, it’ll be about 6 years.

        At this rate it looks like we should count the first 4 years, so help should begin around September 2027.

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      The neo liberal imperialist yankee way will make it to you eventually… Ameridumb “culture” spreads like a virus. You are still apart of the death cult that is yankkkeee doodle dandy dumb dumb capitalism. You are just not In the imperial core. The pigglets in Yankee land are incredibly violent though. A special breed.

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        America’s number 1 export since the end of WW2 has been culture. From Hollywood and music to games, fashion, the English language, and Microsoft, American culture has been dominant for decades.

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    America is cooked.

    Peaceful protest? Nah. Violent insurrection.

    you don’t matter to them and they think the only opinion you should have is theirs

    Anything that violates that makes you a threat to national security, a terrorist, and a criminal. If they won’t respect the rule of law, neither should you.

    Defund the police. Fire everyone on that police force. They’re all rotten and crooked.

    … It won’t happen since the owners of America actually want this to happen.

    Here’s the fact: one way or another they finally put someone who is mentally insane enough to push their policies, into the Whitehouse. Now that he’s there, they will push their beliefs onto everyone as a matter of law. If you obey the law, they’ll win by default since the laws are currently theirs to control. If you protest and revolt, it’s a violent terrorist insurrection that must be quelled, and you become a military dictatorship and the same outcome happens as before, but now with more guns and violence. You can’t win by doing nothing. You can’t win by doing something.

    You can’t win.

    Also, “they” in this context is the people who have long since bought and paid for the house, the Senate, the supreme Court, the police, the feds… They’re the corporate interests that are hostile to your continued existence and freedom. You can exist but only as they permit. Freedom is actively being robbed from the American people.

    If any of this is shocking or unclear to you, then I’m afraid you’re not paying attention.

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    Using police dogs to attack people is animal abuse, not to mention abuse of a person who hasn’t been convicted of anything. By teaching a dog to attack humans is some ancient, barbaric bullshit. It’s an abuse on the dog to turn them into weapons

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    This dumb fuck just opened up a world of extra legal fun.

    Really hoping someone guns down a nosy PIG abusing their authority and then claims castle doctrine - I mean it’s right there, that dumb pig fuck straight up told you the cops will illegally kill you if you feel like it, and castle doctrine allows you to defend yourself….

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      in a logical world that would stand to reason, but this is desantisland, where they’ll simply drop a bomb on your house or roll an APC through it. any resistance from the people will be curbstomped because they know they have to make examples if they want to remain in control.

      edit: aww the downvote from desantisland makes me laugh

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        The person to try something like that is not likely to have a lot of capital tied up in any kind of permanent residence.

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          what makes you take that leap of reasoning?

          there are plenty of homeowners in FL who fucking despise ronnyboy.