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Just your friendly reminder that over half of the country blamed the students for the Kent State massacre.
What percentage of people today do you think even know what the Kent state massacre was?
People seem so fucking incurious it’s aggravating.
This is the first time iv ever heard of this
The first “Super Group” Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young; released a song named Ohio that got big time air play at the time and still does today, regarding the Kent shooting.
It was wild being from that area and talking to people who protested that day and hearing their stories
Yeah I grew up a couple states over and my Dad was protesting at a similar sized college back then.
He got tear gassed and beat up too, and he always said if I was in a protest to bring a video camera and pretend to be Press.
But now that they’re shooting obvious journalists, I don’t think that would work.
To clarify, it’s not one’s fault for not knowing something. None of us know everything. What’s aggravating is the lack of curiosity.
Nah, it’s their fault. Unless they’re not American, and then it’s their parents’ fault.
TL;dr: Students from Kent State were protesting against Nixon expanding the Vietnam war into Cambodia, other people from Kent got involved and somewhat violent in town, resulting in national guard deployment. may 4th, students gathered for a scheduled peaceful protest, army showed up to disperse them and they chased each other until the army, with no warning, turned and fired on the protestors.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Hat_Riot.
And then a few days later, hundreds of students and teachers protested this event in NYC.
Thousands of workers in the area then attacked the protestors and rioted throughout the city in retaliation.
The police formed a barrier to prevent the workers from reaching the students, but when this was breached, they gave up and allowed the rioters to attack the students/teachers.The mayor called out the police for not attempting to stop the violent workers, and three days later the workers began their own protests against the ‘commie’ mayor.
The president later appointed the main guy leading these counter protests as his labor secretary.
Just typical american shit.
Ah that’s why we celebrate star wars day
The Neil Young song “Ohio” (well, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young) is about the event… Great song check it out.
First time I have heard from it, but we don’t hear from every massacre in the US in NL and well they generally aren’t called something something massacre.
You Americans need to stop blaming yourselves for what your “leaders” do. Your nation has always been a false democracy with false freedoms. Everyone else around the world knows America is full of shit when it talks about such things. And they don’t get to vote on what foreign policy America will adopt. What you’re experiencing now is that foreign policy turned domestic.
This is so true, it’s exactly how the American regime has been conducting itself around the world for decades. They have just now turned it on us. I think it’s because people started talking about Bernie and socialized medicine and universal healthcare and it looked like we might actually do something about it for a second there.
Ok but also about 1 in 4 people here know what is happening and actively want it.
You Americans need to stop blaming yourselves for what your “leaders” do.
Easier said than done when so many regular people cheer this shit on.
But Donald Trump, known Conman and 34 time Convicted Felon who Lied during his First Term, TOLD ME he DIDNT know what Project 2025 WAS!
He still doesn’t. This is Steve Miller’s show. Trump is nothing but a spokesman.
Americans sure enjoyed sitting on their hands during the 2024 presidential election when they could’ve prevented all of this…
Half of them are brainwashed. Its crazy how propaganda works. Then you ask one of them if they’ve ever even met a trans person, and they haven’t. Even though by their estimates 50% of the US is Trans xD . Idiots.
Many of us voted against this. And many more were purged from the voting rolls when it was too late to re-register.
It’s more so because not enough people didn’t do their part to oppose fascism at the ballot.
Republicans didn’t have that much control over the state and local election rules at the time.
So no you don’t get to hand weave personal-responsibility away from those who did nothing that day.
Tankies and Anarchists need to be called out for encouraging this self-destructive behaviour.
You but see here. The other option was a black female. That’s a difficult choice for them.
I really hate this type of rhetoric, not dissimilar to the cringe af “vote blue no matter who”. It really ignores the decades long malicious attack on american consciousness itself, on truth and history. The American people are disenfranchised from political thought and economic action by design. Im not sure how much voting in america even matters at this point, the dnc capitulated HARD to fascists during the election, as is their historical prerogative (to defend capital interest), blaming the citizens just seems meaningless at this point. At a certain point you have to admit this is just what liberal democracy degenerates to every time.
Maybe think about implementing proportional representation if you hate 2 big parties so much. Kamala Harris is leagues of Donald Trump and you’re trolling if you think they’re the same…
Nobody said they are the same, and you’re trolling if you think they did. The above is spot on correct.
The comment encourages not voting with “vote blue no matter who”
That’s Implying they think both parties are “just as bad”
It’s the worst take anarchists have. You use every tool in the box not completely abandoned an important one such as voting ceding all ground to maga candidates playing right into the hands of Trump.
You can demand for electoral reform, read independent journalism, protest, support unions, join cooperatives and only buy from companies that don’t contribute to political parties just as a few listed examples.
VBNMW is cringe to a whole lot more people than just “anarchists”. It doesn’t just speak to voter participation, it speaks to a sense of entitlement that Democratic politicians have. It reminds me of Hillary’s “It’s her turn” slogan.
Democrats are, in almost every situation, the better choice. Political junkies know that, but most people aren’t political junkies. We criticize the Democratic sense of entitlement because we know how it comes off to regular voters. It’s political malpractice to constantly display that kind of entitlement. That slogan needs to die.
First-past-the-post is litterally the problem you have with American democracy, it’s intentionally designed to only work for 2 competitors in an election race.
You’re not going to have a better democrat party unless you force them to face actual competition with elections under the single-transferable vote they would quickly improve their act facing small parties and independents winning seats. Portland uses this system already for their elections.
Americans need to stop accepting just 2 choices when they deserve more and better.
Absolutely true and entirely useless on a national scale right now. FPTP is what we have and it’s the system in which we must elect candidates who will move us to a better system. Primaries are where the game has to be played right now, and for that we need to kill the notion that loyal Democrats shouldn’t criticize sitting Democrats.
Portland is not politically typical. It can be a model, but it has to be a model for political culture before it can be a model for how to enact a better voting system.
with elections under the single-transferable vote
While FPTP is trash, that system is kinda trash, too: if a candidate would beat all others 1-on-1 (Condorcet winner), then should that candidate win? Not according to single transferable vote/instant run-off.
Example
- A > B > C: 2
- C > B > A: 2
- B > C > A: 1
Who wins according to instant run-off? C. Who wins against every opponent 1-on-1? B.
There are better methods: this nice table compares voting methods by a wide range of properties.
Both sides are le same. I am very smart
Republicans inspire hate and lead people to ignorance. Democrats inspire nobody and lead them nowhere. Then Democrats whine that they can’t win because people are ignorant and hateful.
Haha, it would be convenient if that were true
It most definitely is not convenient. The establishment is plagued by weakness and committed to maintaining that culture.
While I’m arguing this, I’m also arguing against a 3rd party edgelord. It’s really hard to say who is more insane, people who want to go 3rd party in a FPTP system, or people who think the Democratic establishment is competent at running elections.
Americans have been sitting on their hands for way longer than that.
The largest bloc who regularly sit out elections really anger me especially post-2016.
“But a meme page on Facebook told me Project 2025 was just written to trigger the libs!”
(Yes, I knew people like that)
Yeah but what did you think Americans were actually gonna vote for a black woman? They were gonna come up with every excuse not to. Trump, Putin and Netanyahu played the American left like a fiddle.
“But remember to peacefully keep letting them do whatever they want or they will be REALLY bad guys!”
This country is fucked
And Neoliberals are at least half to blame
“At least half” implies they could have over 50% culpability for the fascist government. How can the fascists doing the things have a minority of blame for their own actions?
You can blame them for the country being shit but it’s been functionally shit for decades. Fascists are the ones who properly fucked it.
Not really. page 555 just take about deploying troops at the border.
Everything within 100 miles of the border or a coast is technically ‘at the border’ for the purposes of enforcement. That covers pretty much 90% of the US population.
Which, for people doing that math at home, includes LA
Correct. LA borders the ocean
I think within their definition, entry points to the country are the “border” as well. Meaninig all international airports.
This could include use of active-duty military personnel and National Guardsmen to assist in arrest operations
I’d say that’s pretty spot on for what’s happening.
Hi, have you seen where LA is on a map by chance?
Shouldn’t Trump be arrested according to page 553?
Open book test? … lol … America just looked at the pretty pictures and voted for the guy with the easiest sounding name.
Idk… Harris is much easier to say, and doesnt rhyme with rump, dump, or chump
People forgot the age-old rule, never skip page 555. Actually most Americans didn’t read any of Project 2025, and MAGAs didn’t read any criticisms of it. Can’t be bothered when you got memes to look at and scrollin’ to do!
The better of us tried!
Even though most Americans don’t know or don’t care about any of this, the other side would have still won if they just asked the voters who they want.
But that wasn’t an option, by design. Because the other side would rather lose than win with someone they can’t control. And any other option is unavailable, by design.
Not even in page 666?
They must an opportunity right there
Wait a few weeks, I bet 666 is gonna be fire.
(Unless it’s WWIII, then it affects me as well and it’s just literal fire.)
Nono you don’t get it. Thats a conspiracy. They wouldn’t say what they mean and do what they say! Well even if they do it it hurts people I don’t like so I don’t care!
Fucking Americans.
