• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    Though I don’t doubt many do, it’s important to remember that it’s more or less illegal to not support the war. Not an excuse, but a reason.

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      An overwhelming majority of russians are committed to imperialism. A strong majority are committed to genocidal imperialism.

      This has nothing to do with not supporting the war being illegal. A tiny minority within a minority actually opposes imperialism. Even so called “russian liberals” generally support the annexation of Crimea and are committed to the extermination of occupied nations’ culture and language.

      This is all cross validated by multiple research approaches (both quantitative and qualitative), across multiple sources, with time series analysis and so on.

      Most Westerners have their reasons for avoiding the truth about the vast majority of russians.

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        Oh, I’m well aware, but I also do my best to avoid sweeping generalizations. I do agree that Russian society and culture on that front is… shall we say, deeply problematic.

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          It’s not a sweeping generalization. It’s reality.

          The common (mis)use of generalizations does not preclude the possibility of a society being overwhelmingly (80%+ after adjustments for preference falsification) committed to imperialism.

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      It’s the reason why some russians (not that many) have left the country and some (very few) tried protesting.

      After three years of war, though, those joining the army, those working in factories producing shahed drones or other weapons, those supporting the army indirectly, they actually support the war.

      Yes, it’s all the result of propaganda, but they do believe the official line, they do think that they’re trying to liberate.

      So while it’s illegal to be against war there, very few are breaking that even in their heads. And when we hear “x% of ruzzians want peace”, it only means that they want the victory rather sooner, because their life is somewhat uncomfortable.

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      True but there is a difference between not speaking out cause its illegal and actively promoting it online constantly. A large amount of russians want everyone but them dead and subjugated.

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        Even genuine anti-war Russians have some hard cognitive dissonances when asked about all the small peoples of Russia, whose cultures and languages are about to be extinct because any display of your ethnic identity is labeled as “nationalism” and they’re just slowly getting erased.

        Not to mention the Crimea question. Make it make sense, that “nazi Ukraine” had TV channels broadcasting in Crimean Tathar language, while Russia doesn’t.

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      And there’s a state propaganda ecosystem making the war look normal and okay, and most people just aren’t that into politics.

      Civilians are civilians. Sometimes they’re dumb, but we’re still not supposed to demonise them.