13 million people in the LA metro area. Like 100, at most, are being violent. Yes, we need to deploy the marines to control 100 people. This is Trump grabbing power and his personal vendetta against Newsom.
I agree with the spirit of your message, but it is a hell of a lot more than 100 angry people in that mob. In my opinion, there should be thousands more. The only other option is to do absolutely nothing while democracy dies.
Yes there are more than 100 angry people, but just because you’re angry doesn’t mean you’re violent.
I wrote a longer comment further down in this thread—the group of 100 I saw live on @LordHito’s stream was definitely violent—some had what appeared to be homemade smoke bombs, they lit fires, and smashed some windows.
However, I think this response is entirely justified and the police have definitely been more violent than the protestors.
I don’t disagree with anything they’ve done, I just think it is disingenuous to say they were a peaceful mob, even though that is what the news has been mostly showing.
That’s not violent that’s disorderly like… A protest. It’s like you think we simply showed up and told the British we were displeased and dispersed in an orderly fashion when ordered to do so.
I would like to point out a subtle piece of “reporting” that is not only inaccurate, but I believe in there in an attempt to “both sides” the issue and appease Trump.
Newsom and Trump officials exchanged barbs all weekend after Trump federalized and deployed the California National Guard in Los Angeles amid violent anti-ICE protests.
The protests, as evidenced by the livestreams of LA, were almost entirely non-violent. Violence shown was almost entirely ICE committing the violence, such as when they intentionally shot rubber bullets at an Australian reporter in order to scare her away from reporting.
Saying the protests were “violent” does nothing more than give Trump justification for sending troops in the first place. This is intentionally misleading reporting that does nothing but give Trump more cover, possibly in an attempt to “both sides” the issue in case Trump’s goons come knocking.
I want to preface this by saying that I support the protestors and any measures they deem necessary, but what you are saying does not match up with what I’ve witnessed. A live streamer who goes by @LordHito spent several hours streaming the protests after dark. Dozens of protestors seemed to have homemade smoke grenades, as well as rocks and anything else they could hurl easily. Fires were started and windows were broken.
That said, I think those are all entirely justified. The other option is to sit around while democracy dies, and that is unacceptable. There has no doubt been collateral damage, but so it goes in struggles against the government.
100%, the police have been more violent than the protestors and are the true aggressors, but many of protestors have not been the flower children you seem to imply they are. I won’t go so far as to say most, but definitely more than an insignificant amount.
I wish them the best in their struggle. They fight for all of us.
Fair points. I will admit that I didn’t look at or for every single livestream that was out there. But of all the livestreams I did view, I either saw absolutely nothing at all, a couple of skirmishes that barely qualified as drunken bar fights, and some minor looting. I did not see a single piece of footage that would justify calling in the national guard, and if there is footage out there of riots of the scale that would justify it, Trump would be touting it all over social media in order to make his case.
I’m completely with you—the response from the government is unjustified, especially against citizens.
I’m reminded of BLM—some areas were very safe and festive while others were more intense. I’m sure the visual looks very different block to block. I saw other live streamers who encountered no violence—LordHito’s just told a different story, and that was largely because he was intentionally looking for trouble.
That said, hearing him get a donation to play the Star Wars Imperial March loudly while the cops advanced was something I’ll never forget.
The news sources (even the “leftist” ones) are all owned by billionaires.
The real war is a class war, the minorities are used to make us fight with each other.
LBJ said it…
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lbj-convince-the-lowest-white-man/
He wasn’t advocating on it, but commenting on the Republican strategy and all the racist shit he saw down in the South
There are no major leftist news sources in the United States
MeidasTouch network is in that argument
They ran a super pac backing democrats and employ Michael cohen as a podcast host. Nothing leftist about that
there’s a bit more to it than that
Been saying this for forty years…
Begun it has, the war on greed.
I sure hope so. I don’t want to live the next forty years of my life, as things get increasingly worse.
ICE committing the violence, such as when they intentionally shot rubber bullets at an Australian reporter
Wasn’t that the LAPD? It was an ACAB moment I believe, not ICE specifically.
Honestly, does it matter?
They were there supporting ICE raids , deterring protests, and keeping reporters from doing their job. At this point, they’re all one and the same.
ALL cops are bastards.
LA PD chief stated that they will not report to ICE and that they will only uphold the law. So at least publicly they took a more neutral position
Fuck the police.
Goebels style propaganda: add a bit of narrative to otherwise true story. Take a look at today’s russia it works
Arrest Trump
Trump should be hanged for treason.
Like Mussolini?
Mussolini was shot. In a comical fashion
And then hung. Also comically.
One of the few cases where that’s the correct form of “hung” regarding the execution of someone
Gaddafi.
I think that would be something I’d watch, and I’m not one for capital punishment or public displays of violence.
Rack and quartered*
*Scaphism
Gaddafi his fat ass.
The American people are the frogs in the pot of water
The water is getting pretty warm and its about to boil soon and everyone keeps hoping that the water won’t get any hotter
Arresting Newsome is the dumbest move trump could make, so he might do it.
Eleni Kounalakis isnt so.eone I know about, but after a quick Google seems to be a huge improvement over Newsome, and with the election next year she’ll drag the Overton window left even before the primary starts to gear up.
And she’d be out to do a lot before the election because she’s already declared for it.
So in your prediction of the future Trump arrests the governor of California and then just fucks off while that governor’s replacement does what they like? I’m not following the logic.
You’re not following the logic that he would arrest a governor?
Like, for you it’s unfathomable to do that and not a full-scale takeover?
I’m genuinely confused what you’re trying to ask, and you apparently can’t understand me…
I think we’re at an enpasse bud, you might have to ask someone else for help.
Personally, I think y’all are at an impasse
Didn’t want to take anything for granite
*Newesome
Gnusomme
Soooooo, he’s willing to throw Elon under the bus, the richest dude in America (maybe world, don’t know), and he’s willing to go after governors that make him look like a terrible leader. All of these other oligarchs, what makes you think you’ll be special and he won’t do the same to you? Answer, he will.
This time it’s different. He likes me in a way he doesn’t like the others. They were all toxic but he knows I’m true. They made him be like that. He knows I won’t.
I don’t have to fix him because he can fix my country.
Fuckin’ try it.
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