• theturtlemoves [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    6 days ago

    California gives the federal government way more in tax money than it gets back.

    Yes, but

    The US needs California way more than California needs the US.

    this is not true. California benefits from access to the US dollar. An independent California would either have to come up with its own currency - one that is not artificially inflated by being the world trade currency - or use the dollar at the mercy of the US.

    • ClimateStalin [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      5 days ago

      Sorry wasn’t trying to imply “California must go it on its own, it’ll be better off.” Just that the feds can’t just force California to do things because California could absolutely cripple the United States single-handedly.

      Like, if Louisiana tried to fight the feds they’d instantly be under complete occupation and the US as a whole wouldn’t even notice. If California does it, the entire country’s economy shuts down, grocery store shelves fo empty, and it would take a large scale invasion to retake control.

      • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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        5 days ago

        The feds can absolutely force California to do whatever the feds want. There is not a snowball’s chance in hell of any of the institutions or the political establishment in California putting up real resistance. The most they will do is what they are already doing which is try to score political points by saying shit that they think makes them sound “tough” to their voters. When push actually comes to shove all of them will fold like Origami.