Defense secretary’s memo says stripping the name of the Navy veteran is part of an effort to reestablish ‘warrior culture’

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    Not just Harvey Milk. Several other names are on there, like Harriet fucking Tubman.

    Harriet Tubman was more of a warrior than he could ever be.

    Hegseth is a news anchor who literally commisioned his personal lawyer as a Navy Officer. He wouldn’t know what a warrior looked like if one punched him in the face for being a christofascist fuck. He wrote a book called American Crusade and is ripping down Harvey Milk’s name specifically during Pride Month, quote, “on purpose.”

    Remember, everyone. It was never about transgender athletes, it was never going to stop with oppressing transgender people, it was always complete and utter bigotry and fascism all the way down.

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    We don’t want a warrior culture. That’s dumb fashy shit. We want a culture where every time soldiers are sent to war, it’s seen as a failure of leadership that it got to this point.

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      literally one of the biggest components of sun tzus art of war is exactly that.

      “the supreme art of war is to subdue your enemy without fighting”

      essentially, if you have an enemy, and can work things out democratically, or in other non violent ways, then you win. if you cannot do that, you have failed, and have to wage a traditional war, which is costly to both sides. and thus should be avoided.

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        Asimov also had this concept baked into the foundation series. “Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent”.

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    This dude is hopelessly fucking stupid.

    The very nature of warfare is changing at an unbelievable rate (supply chain attacks, drones manufactured in theater, just to name a couple) and this guy is fucking obsessed with transgender and gay people.

    If you’re conservative and you voted for these guys, and you give any kind of shit about America, you need to start yelling at your reps about this bullshit to get someone with at least some baseline fucking competency in there.

    I didn’t vote for this bullshit. My city didn’t. My state didn’t. Y’all in the red states need to step up.

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    These people wouldn’t know what warrior culture is if it came in and punched them in the face. Ancient Greeks hoplites were gay as shit and they were some of the finest warriors in the world.

    Homosexuality in the militaries of ancient Greece was a significant aspect across the ancient Greek city-states, ranging from being a core part of military life to being an accepted practice of some individual soldiers. It was regarded as contributing to morale. Although the primary example is the Sacred Band of Thebes, a unit said to have been formed of same-sex couples, the Spartan tradition of military heroism has also been explained in light of strong emotional bonds resulting from homosexual relationships. Various ancient Greek sources record incidents of courage in battle and interpret them as motivated by homoerotic bonds.

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      The Spartans also missed like two wars because they landed on easy to predict holidays that perverted them from being there in time, so they tended to over sell the times they did make it to war.

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    Too bad his name wasn’t Harvey Whiskey. There’d be no shot of having it renamed by Pete in that case.

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    Renaming a ship is really bad luck, IIRC. And sailors are hilariously superstitious. So if they rename it after some conservative anti-gay asshat (narrator: they will) that the ship is going to be the most despised ship in the fleet.

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    America is a fascist, racist, homophobic, bully, anti-intelligence culture.

    Sacrifice your neighbours at the altar of prosperity in pursuit of the holy me.

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      Rainbow fascism at work! Also “…something something during the time of great revolutionaries something something canonize them something something.” --Joe’s Lemon.

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    The thing is, Drinky Pete, we can’t go back to live in the 1950s. We already don’t live there because of the whole forward-motion thing of time, and so going back isn’t going to work.

    So maybe work a little harder to drink yourself to death.

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      Yea but I also have a job, and a wife and dog that would suffer if I martyred myself, even if I only wound up in prison. I think a lot of people look at the situation and see the same hopelessness, and can only hope for it not to get worse, because chances are if we do nothing, we won’t lose everything, but not the same if we do choose to do something.

      “First they came for the…”

      I agree, but I don’t have a better answer. I empathize like hell with my queer friends, I understand the fear, but what am I going to accomplish alone with a rifle and how likely is it that a legitimate militia could be established before being wiped out, and how would it even be organized?

      I think it has to start with the military. I think if a large enough chunk of soldiers and materiel defected, enough for a fighting chance, that civilians would join in droves. But I don’t really know, that’s just what I’ve come to think.

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        Dont take on an army Hunt the MAGA pastor, the christofascist YT host, the local TikToc fascist influencer. Know where all the cops live. The US military is too big for lone wolves and can’t do anything about guerillas.