Public Ownership is not Socialism itself, but a component of a Socialist economy. An economy where public ownership controls the large firms and key industries, ie has genuine political control, is Socialist.
China is a Socialist country run by a Communist party, which is why the overwhelming majority of major Communist orgs recognize it as such. The economy is dominated by the public sector, which controls the large majority of key industries and large firms.
Nothing screams “the public has genuine political control” like having a single political party which unilaterally bans a cartoon bear because it was compared the head of state.
The comments they replied to don’t really seem that way, but elsewhere in that thread looks like the usual type of stuff that .ml communities would Rule 1 pretty quickly. But I’m sure Cowbee knows that’s allowed in that instance and community and the mods know he knows too.
Dont need to travel to see that chinese people live in poverty, anything can be done when you are a dictatorship, its corrupt and everything is a scam. Fake meat, fake tofu, tofu drag constructions, 4 billion on a road and all the village got was a gravel path. Where a state teaches kids to hate other nations and disrespect everything for something that happened 80 years ago instead of making sure this does not ever happen again. Where its a national sport to go abroad and harass others. Where the state doesnt care about your stolen things, but if you speak out publicly against it, you will be warned with a kind “take that down, or else”.
If their electric cars are anything to go by, i dont even want to step on their most modern trains even if they give me trillions of GBP.
If the regime is supposed to be an example of progress, well guess then we all should go back to european monarchy and imperialism. Europe thrived in the 19th century afterall. Just look at all those rich people living luxurious lifes. All the advancements in science, medicine, transportation, literatur, architectur, social policies, unification of people split appart and more.
If i were to travel to china they would arrest me on the airport for critisising china and not seeing the CCP as legitimite and supporting taiwan, that being if i would even be allowed to enter the country.
The USA train system is shit, yes, thats not even on debate. Against that even the russian train system is amazing.
Also china didnt build its high speed trains on their own. They used EU and japanese tech.
Japan has the best train system in the entire world, and that without being a supressive, all survaling dictatorship. OP here is comparing shit, scooped from the toilet, to a microwave meal, that got a mediocer plate up. Ofc then in comparison the microwave meal will look better.
Highlighted the parts I feel those bad vibes.
So they said Chinese people live in poverty, which is not entirely false, but it almost felt like the “Chinese people are peasants” racist rhetoric that JD Vance used. I’m not saying that’s is necessarily the commenter’s intent, but it feels to me that way.
Then “everything is a scam”. It would sound a lot better if they said “the government doesn’t do anything about the scammers”. Because this user’s wording sound like he’s blaming the people. Like those scam call centers from India, people in youtube comments make “jokes” like: “if you hear someone with an Indian accent, its 100% a scammer”, like that’s not even true, legit customer service is now outsourced to India, so like that just sounded racist. I feel the same way about the “everything (in China) is a scam” comment.
“Nation sport to harass others” This part feels very wrong. What is this person implying? Feel lile they’re saying its what Chinese people do, which it isn’t, ultra-nationalists do not represent the entirety of the Chinese population.
The the user made some joke about reverting back to European monarchy because “if CCP dictatorship is so good, why not try European dictatorship where its actually better” 🧐 (Feels a bit like a subtle “If we’re doing dictatorship anyways, we Europeans can do a dictatorship better”)
“Chine didn’t built stuff, its from Western Tech”
Okay “China” might not have built it, but the Chinese People definitely worked on it with their hard labor. As for the so called “IP Theft”, like calm down, that’s just espionage, espionage is as old as human civilization.
By this logic, Europe “stole” gunpowder from China during colonialism to make firearms to use use against Imperial China.
Disclaimer: I have Chinese ancestry in me, I live in the US where I’ve encountered racism, so perhaps I’m a bit more sus about potential racism. I’m anti-CCP, but not “anti-China”.
Probably from this thread https://lemmy.world/post/30630208
Its the latest thread that cowbee commented in before getting temp banned.
They probably reported the comments that they replied to.
Those comments have technically true criticisms of China (as in the state), but it gives off a very weird vibe, reminds me of SerpentZA kind of.
Like its a valid criticizm, but the wording/phrasing sound sort of a right-wing feel to it, you know what I mean?
Oh, this shit is great. You can see the contradictions.
https://lemmy.ml/comment/18987114
https://lemmy.ml/comment/18996384
Nothing screams “the public has genuine political control” like having a single political party which unilaterally bans a cartoon bear because it was compared the head of state.
The comments they replied to don’t really seem that way, but elsewhere in that thread looks like the usual type of stuff that .ml communities would Rule 1 pretty quickly. But I’m sure Cowbee knows that’s allowed in that instance and community and the mods know he knows too.
Yea I should have clarified. I mean this comment:
https://lemmy.world/post/30630208/17430208
Highlighted the parts I feel those bad vibes.
So they said Chinese people live in poverty, which is not entirely false, but it almost felt like the “Chinese people are peasants” racist rhetoric that JD Vance used. I’m not saying that’s is necessarily the commenter’s intent, but it feels to me that way.
Then “everything is a scam”. It would sound a lot better if they said “the government doesn’t do anything about the scammers”. Because this user’s wording sound like he’s blaming the people. Like those scam call centers from India, people in youtube comments make “jokes” like: “if you hear someone with an Indian accent, its 100% a scammer”, like that’s not even true, legit customer service is now outsourced to India, so like that just sounded racist. I feel the same way about the “everything (in China) is a scam” comment.
“Nation sport to harass others” This part feels very wrong. What is this person implying? Feel lile they’re saying its what Chinese people do, which it isn’t, ultra-nationalists do not represent the entirety of the Chinese population.
The the user made some joke about reverting back to European monarchy because “if CCP dictatorship is so good, why not try European dictatorship where its actually better” 🧐 (Feels a bit like a subtle “If we’re doing dictatorship anyways, we Europeans can do a dictatorship better”)
“Chine didn’t built stuff, its from Western Tech”
Okay “China” might not have built it, but the Chinese People definitely worked on it with their hard labor. As for the so called “IP Theft”, like calm down, that’s just espionage, espionage is as old as human civilization.
By this logic, Europe “stole” gunpowder from China during colonialism to make firearms to use use against Imperial China.
Disclaimer: I have Chinese ancestry in me, I live in the US where I’ve encountered racism, so perhaps I’m a bit more sus about potential racism. I’m anti-CCP, but not “anti-China”.
Yeah I think the bad vibes there is the implicit racism from that user.