No we’re not lol
This AI shit is going to cause me to lose my sanity
yeah but it will generate something relatively coherent and people will certainly interpret it that way
anyway check out this video of my cat staring out a window - it has that look on its face with its eyes half-closed because I told it that it’s in timeout, and not just because it’s sitting in the warm sun looking out a window
i can translate anything a whale or any other animal says for a fee
good luck proving my translations false
The Pet Psychic did that and got a successful show on Animal Planet in the 00’s so it’s a good strategy
It is kind of amazing how the AI grift is rapidly going into the territory of every other grift at this point, I can’t think of a common grift that someone hasn’t tried to shove AI into.
There was some stand up comedian who had a joke about how all dogs are basically just yelling “FUCK! FUCK!” All the time. There isn’t really a bark that means “everything’s chill”
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
AI may soon be able to decode whalespeak
excited for when we get livestock pleading for help and people just ignore it
“You’re being anthropocentric. ‘It hurts, please help me!’ is actually a perfectly normal greeting in most animal cultures.”
Using magic to look into the future is cheating.
Ok look, they say “Please stop, I want to see my children” but does that really mean what a naïve interpretation would have us think? I mean it’s not like they didn’t scream before, I don’t think this should move the needle on the extremely simple idea that:
Humans are uniquely endowed with some property that makes suffering meaningful, human emotions and thought can be influenced by the state of the brain but there is no transformation or variation of the brain that can remove the special endowment of meaningful emotional states short of utter destruction, other animals which may share similar brain structures or behaviours cannot have this meaningful suffering unless they are charismatic, even then they will always be secondary to arbitrary humans in concern because they lack special endowment, evolution has converged on extremely complex organs and patterns many times and includes many arrangements or systems which seem implausibly likely evolving dozens of times but it is utterly inconceivable that consciousness could also evolve earlier than humans or multiple times. Also bacon lol get wrecked.
Just to make sure… you’re pointing out how disgustingly ridiculous that idea is, right? (I’m not gonna use the Padme emoji here because its a genuine question). You’re saying how hypocritical and absurd it is, despite its ubiquity and that carnists (especially the super smart reddit “rationalists”) would nod in agreement?
I would hope that if someone says “the extremely simple idea that”. Then follows with a run on sentence with 130 words and like a dozen hesitations it is obviously a satire.
I suppose carnists do write some dumb shit though when fencing with their own values.
Well you got reported on for defending carnism, so it’s not so obvious.
I guess there’s no level of obviousness that won’t appear sincere to someone
Lol, lmao even. Well probably better people have a hair trigger vs being lax with such a destructive ideology. A quick glance at my posting history should make it rather clear what I believe.
I was pretty sure that was the case, but everything you said was literally the exact reasoning I’ve seen presented as a solid argument against veganism. Sadly even here on hexbear sometimes, people have expressed the staunch belief that human brains are uniquely and exclusively the only kind that deserve recognition for their suffering. /s tags shouldn’t be needed ideally, but especially on certain topics and when an entire comment is sarcasm, it can be hard to know with 100% certainty that it wasn’t serious. Especially for people with certain types of neurodivergence like me.
All good, across cultures tone and humour doesn’t always translate well. There is also a literacy crisis in most (all?) English speaking countries which isn’t helping. Given it is now often difficult to tell whether someone’s writing is intentionally awful, or that they were subject to a shitty education.
Carnist arguments are awful. My hope is that when you string them all together, a few people who might present them as rebuttals individually pause and notice the precarious structure they form.
Completely agreed. It sometimes amazes me how unable carnists, especially the ones who “love animals,” are to recognize their blatant hypocrisy for what it is: cringy rationalizations to justify behavior they’re unwilling to change. I’m glad at least that in leftist spaces like this, the concept of “self crit” is better understood and accepted as a good thing to do, something everyone needs to do if they have any hope of examining all the bullshit that “western culture” has ingrained into us.
(Also for the record, I wasn’t the one who reported your comment. Like i said, I was pretty sure you were being sarcastic, just not 100% certain).
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Pain. Pain. Pain. Pain.
That was a hell of a doctor who episode
ALERT, ALERT: The food bowl is at 44% capacity. Action required. ALERT, ALERT: The food bowl is at 43% capacity. Action required. ALERT, ALERT: The food bowl is at 42% capacity. Action required. ALERT, ALERT: The food bowl is at 41% capacity. Action required. ALERT, ALERT: The food bowl is at 40% capacity. Action required.
The first whales they translate are chud whales so we learn about whale racism and assume it’s normal for whalekind.
Grok AI: the whales are singing “kill the Boer” actually
White Whale
Whales seem to have vocalizations that follow the same complexities as human speech. I doubt most animals are capable of something as complex as that. Their research has been extremely promising, they even figured out how to call a wild whale to a research vessel to talk, and the whale circled the vessel and tried to speak to it more.
The whale protracted people’s war nears ever closer.
we’ll get extremely depressed
so we can reckon with over a century of cruel treatment and make their lives more comfortable, right?so we can train them and use them to make rich people richer!
I bet cats have some wild slurs
That one weird bellowing howl my cat does when he’s in the hallway alone is definitely some sort of swear
The AI bubble will finally pop when someone convinces investors that they can teach rats to code.
My new start up puts a million rats on keyboards and our proprietary AI that runs off a coal power plant the size of a city translates it into code! Play our new rat-made idle game with cute rat cosmetics we stole off deviantart!
proprietary AI that runs off a coal power plant the size of a city translates it into code!
Is there anyway to scam the investors so they think that’s what’s happening but we don’t actually have any of the shit that destroys the planet?
Ai generated pictures of the city-reactor
They already did, we call em techbros
We hunt the non-vegans. (In a respectful way and make sure to use all their parts)
Animals: DON’T TRUST THE MUSHROOMS! KILL THEM ALL! KILLLL TTHHEEMMM AAALLLLL!!!
Being able to define a grammar is a far cry from actually being able to assign meaning to individual sequences. Yeah, okay, they taught dolphins a word for “sargasso” but can you especially jump to someone’s potato receiver arguably above an itemized “sargasso” but anything personable or are you just playing dolphin Mad Libs?
Some indigenous groups believe they can already at the very least speak to animals with their native languages. It unfortunately doesn’t mean they can understand the animals.
