Doomer [About the State of Hexbear When It Comes to POC]
I’ve been thinking on whether or not I should start limiting myself to c/em_poc and c/mutual_aid again, and I’ve been increasingly feeling like it’s only right that I do so.
Interacting with white leftist ignorance is just too much of a chore and a toll on my mental health that I currently do not need right now. Hexbear isn’t immune to it. In fact, I feel like too many crackers on this site are blinded by the “I’m one of the good ones” mentality to a point that they’d never take a step back in their life to sit and wonder if there’s any way they can stop being so fucking upsetting to their EMPOC comrades.
Like I said in this comment,, white Hexbears are not some heightened level of better or less performative than your typical white leftist you’ll find anywhere else.
I’ve been being more and more diligent with the job search and even went about ways of thinking outside the box to see if I can have a more solid chance at landing a gig. Once I actually get a job in the capacity to care for myself, the pattern will stay the same: I will only use this site for c/em_poc and c/mutual_aid, but in this case, I hope I can start using the latter more as a donor than a recipient. Unfortunately, the trans clinic job did not accept me.
It’s really sad for me to sit here and reflect on the fact that, though I’m a newish user, I’ve heard of many past incidences of EMPOC Hexbears leaving this site because of this shit. It’s really depressing, but it’s not shocking, and it’s not like it’s any bit reasonable for me to expect this site to ever get any better about it.
Im wondering how it would be received if one points out that possibly the biggest reason next to hell maybe bigger than class , America doesn’t have healthcare, public spending etc that resembles even socdem levels is because of racism both anti black and towards the latino population with all the border fear mongering (asian folks as well). Hell race and class intertwined a lot because America been kind of a caste system for a while.
People like Frederick Ludwig Hoffman justified African Americans being charged higher insurance premiums with race science and he is very influential since then in the industry and the zeitgeist. His works were part of what was used to argue against a single healthcare system. Teddy Roosevelt at a critical time was promoting social healthcare and Hoffman stepped in to oppose it. The insurance company he work with were critical in what stopped the idea of single healthcare system proliferating.
Hell several insurance companies still charged higher insurance premiums blatantly for black people until 1984. Hell education system too zip codes and all that. These are just a few examples
Its no coincidence why chuds hell even libs point to racial homogeneity as a reason for why Japan china norway etc have better healthcare etc. It ain’t no coincidence even lib politicians are subtle about the replacement theory with immigration. I ain’t gonna say no class because class will always be a constant struggle but in a society with damn near caste system where race and class are treated almost the same down to material conditions for a long time there with a few exceptions its hard to ignore this shit.
Oh Americans definitely eat shit if it means someone they don’t like has to smell it. Liberals become rabid fascists when you suggest open borders should be a thing. Even the way “”““progressives””“” talk about homeless people is enough to make you gag. The US organizes its classes based on where they are in the cishet WASP hierarchy, especially when people have less money.
I ain’t gonna say no class because class will always be a constant struggle but in a society with damn near caste system where race and class are treated almost the same down to material conditions for a long time there with a few exceptions its hard to ignore this shit.
The Wretched of the Earth quote
In the colonies the economic substructure is also a superstructure. The cause is the consequence; you are rich because you are white, yon are white because you are rich. This is why Marxist analysis should always be slightly stretched every time we have to do with the colonial problem.
I feel like too many crackers on this site are blinded by the “I’m one of the good ones” mentality to a point that they’d never take a step back in their life to sit and wonder if there’s any way they can stop being so fucking upsetting to their EMPOC comrades.
Not to mention, Luigi has some really iffy stuff on his social media before his arrest. When this got pointed out, crackers went ballistic at how PoC maybe weren’t comfortable jumping to his defense the same way we don’t jump to the defense of Pelosi/Trump’s would-be assassins.
I think it was you (?) who in another thread pointed out the left is so unorganized and deeply unserious that it can’t capitalize on justifiable adventurism and redirect it into material, systemic change. Conditions in Palestine and the Philippines are both worse, yet they managed to have leftists organizing armed resistance while Americans just kind of sit on our thumbs calling AES tankies/crazy/etc.
Is this a commentary on hexbear or american leftistm as a whole? Because I find this site more supportive of AES than left-Reddit or Leftbook. Have no idea what the consensus on Twitter is.
Hexbear and the rest of socialist Lemmy are more supportive of AES than the rest of the internet. It’s just such a low bar even people here still have Imperial Core brainworms so they ignore PoC concerns. Every once in a while a struggle session will start over some bullshit resulting in minorities getting told to stop being wreckers/we’re not really minorities/we’re not real socialists/etc. etc.
Bruh mandem said oh hamas and Hezbollah also have problematic views so comparable. Another famous poster went in on frauddogg for not supporting racist chit as critical support. So now critical support being used against poc that look sideways at some shit.
I am trying to find a different piece of work of Lenin that talks about the role the masses in not commenting the national affairs of countries that their nation-state is in imperialist war with but I can’t find it.
Regardless any Global South radical knows this, whether through explicit radical theory or through culture, of not interfering in other people’s affairs especially when you lack the knowledge or ability to affect it.
But in the meanwhile I found this which I find perfect for this context in Opportunism, and the Collapse of the Second International:
Kautsky wants to represent the golden mean, and to reconcile the “two extremes” which “have nothing in common”! Today (sixteen months after the outbreak of war) he admits that the masses are revolutionary. Condemning in the same breath revolutionary action, which he calls “Abenteuer” “in den Strassen”[4] (p. 272), Kautsky wants to “reconcile” the revolutionary masses with the opportunist leaders, who have “nothing in common” with them—but on what basis ? On the basis of mere words! On the basis of “Left-wing” words of the “Left-wing” minority in the Reichtag! Let the minority, like Kautsky, condemn revolutionary action, calling it adventurism, but it must feed the masses with Left-wing words. Then there will be peace in the Party, unity with the Südekums, Legiens, Davids, and Monitors!
I am 100% convinced that for the majority of the Hexbear user base, that if they started living in a Global South country they’d turn to a NATO-supporting liberal so fast. Simple class interests.
Suddenly all this posturing of being part of a “radical” political minority falls flat.
Doomer [About the State of Hexbear When It Comes to POC]
I’ve been thinking on whether or not I should start limiting myself to c/em_poc and c/mutual_aid again, and I’ve been increasingly feeling like it’s only right that I do so.
Interacting with white leftist ignorance is just too much of a chore and a toll on my mental health that I currently do not need right now. Hexbear isn’t immune to it. In fact, I feel like too many crackers on this site are blinded by the “I’m one of the good ones” mentality to a point that they’d never take a step back in their life to sit and wonder if there’s any way they can stop being so fucking upsetting to their EMPOC comrades.
Like I said in this comment,, white Hexbears are not some heightened level of better or less performative than your typical white leftist you’ll find anywhere else.
I’ve been being more and more diligent with the job search and even went about ways of thinking outside the box to see if I can have a more solid chance at landing a gig. Once I actually get a job in the capacity to care for myself, the pattern will stay the same: I will only use this site for c/em_poc and c/mutual_aid, but in this case, I hope I can start using the latter more as a donor than a recipient. Unfortunately, the trans clinic job did not accept me.
It’s really sad for me to sit here and reflect on the fact that, though I’m a newish user, I’ve heard of many past incidences of EMPOC Hexbears leaving this site because of this shit. It’s really depressing, but it’s not shocking, and it’s not like it’s any bit reasonable for me to expect this site to ever get any better about it.
Im wondering how it would be received if one points out that possibly the biggest reason next to hell maybe bigger than class , America doesn’t have healthcare, public spending etc that resembles even socdem levels is because of racism both anti black and towards the latino population with all the border fear mongering (asian folks as well). Hell race and class intertwined a lot because America been kind of a caste system for a while.
People like Frederick Ludwig Hoffman justified African Americans being charged higher insurance premiums with race science and he is very influential since then in the industry and the zeitgeist. His works were part of what was used to argue against a single healthcare system. Teddy Roosevelt at a critical time was promoting social healthcare and Hoffman stepped in to oppose it. The insurance company he work with were critical in what stopped the idea of single healthcare system proliferating.
Hell several insurance companies still charged higher insurance premiums blatantly for black people until 1984. Hell education system too zip codes and all that. These are just a few examples
Its no coincidence why chuds hell even libs point to racial homogeneity as a reason for why Japan china norway etc have better healthcare etc. It ain’t no coincidence even lib politicians are subtle about the replacement theory with immigration. I ain’t gonna say no class because class will always be a constant struggle but in a society with damn near caste system where race and class are treated almost the same down to material conditions for a long time there with a few exceptions its hard to ignore this shit.
Oh Americans definitely eat shit if it means someone they don’t like has to smell it. Liberals become rabid fascists when you suggest open borders should be a thing. Even the way “”““progressives””“” talk about homeless people is enough to make you gag. The US organizes its classes based on where they are in the cishet WASP hierarchy, especially when people have less money.
The Wretched of the Earth quote
You’re not doomer. You’re just right.
It will never not be baffling to me that Luigi is a hero but God forbid a non-white person denazifies some genocidal zionists.
The settler & petty boug urge to label anti-colonial violence as “adventurist” reveals the state of things quite clearly.
Not to mention, Luigi has some really iffy stuff on his social media before his arrest. When this got pointed out, crackers went ballistic at how PoC maybe weren’t comfortable jumping to his defense the same way we don’t jump to the defense of Pelosi/Trump’s would-be assassins.
I think it was you (?) who in another thread pointed out the left is so unorganized and deeply unserious that it can’t capitalize on justifiable adventurism and redirect it into material, systemic change. Conditions in Palestine and the Philippines are both worse, yet they managed to have leftists organizing armed resistance while Americans just kind of sit on our thumbs calling AES tankies/crazy/etc.
Is this a commentary on hexbear or american leftistm as a whole? Because I find this site more supportive of AES than left-Reddit or Leftbook. Have no idea what the consensus on Twitter is.
Hexbear and the rest of socialist Lemmy are more supportive of AES than the rest of the internet. It’s just such a low bar even people here still have Imperial Core brainworms so they ignore PoC concerns. Every once in a while a struggle session will start over some bullshit resulting in minorities getting told to stop being wreckers/we’re not really minorities/we’re not real socialists/etc. etc.
Bruh mandem said oh hamas and Hezbollah also have problematic views so comparable. Another famous poster went in on frauddogg for not supporting racist chit as critical support. So now critical support being used against poc that look sideways at some shit.
I am trying to find a different piece of work of Lenin that talks about the role the masses in not commenting the national affairs of countries that their nation-state is in imperialist war with but I can’t find it.
Regardless any Global South radical knows this, whether through explicit radical theory or through culture, of not interfering in other people’s affairs especially when you lack the knowledge or ability to affect it.
But in the meanwhile I found this which I find perfect for this context in Opportunism, and the Collapse of the Second International:
I am 100% convinced that for the majority of the Hexbear user base, that if they started living in a Global South country they’d turn to a NATO-supporting liberal so fast. Simple class interests.
Suddenly all this posturing of being part of a “radical” political minority falls flat.