• owl@infosec.pub
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    16 hours ago

    These standing seats have been coming next year for the past decade, but they always failed safety tests. Planes need to be evacuated within a certain time frame, which does not work when the plane is too densely packed.

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      7 hours ago

      Did the stronger younger people try pushing the frail and children out of the way during these safety tests? Because I feel like the plane world empty quickly in that scenario

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      I think we should relax rules on how quickly it is to evaluate a plane, and focus more on keeping the plane in the sky. (looking at you Boeing)

      I’d love sleeping pods or bunk beds on a plane and accept the higher risk of not being able to get out quickly.

      Cars and probably even train are infinitely more dangerous and we accept those risks every day.

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        And if we are making rules about exiting a plane it should apply to when the plane lands normally. There is absolutely no reason it takes 30+ mints to get the fuck off the plane once we’ve arrived at the gate

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        There is no legitimate reason why trains or cars should be more dangerous modes of transport than flights. It is just that the lobbies for cars and capitalist train operations successfully desensitized everyone to it, so “deadly car crash” is just shrugged away. In the US we see similar attempts to make planes less safe and just accept the numbers of people killed in preventable events.

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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          IDK about trains, but the problem with cars is that we let people operate them with minimal training and practically no oversight. You see shit on roads daily where if the driver was flying a plane, they wouldn’t even be let on as a passenger anymore ever.

          • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
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            11 hours ago

            I had a buddy from Northern Ireland take the Massachusetts driver’s test and he was blown away over how many things weren’t checked.

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            13 hours ago

            We could increase the training requirements and oversight. We could design road-networks in a way that makes speeding more difficult and enact stricter speed limits.

            Whenever these measures are taking in an area they greatly reduce the number of people killed or seriously injured.

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              13 hours ago

              We could increase the training requirements and oversight.

              I wish.

              And who’s going to tell all those people that they are not going to drive again, ever? In pilot training, even showing signs of bravado or machismo is grounds for getting failed. The problem is that if you do that those people will go and vote you out, especially in this climate.

              One of the main campaign promises of the idiot who got the most votes in the last Dutch election was to put the speed limits back to 130 kmh from the reduced 100 kmh on motorways. People like to be dumb.

              BTW it would take minimal effort to enforce highway speed limits with cameras checking entry and exit times and distances. In some places with road tolls, it wouldn’t even need any more data collection. A single SQL query would return all those people doing 100 kmh over on the motorways. Wonder why outside of a few outliers, nobody does it.

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                One big reason why mass transit is and always will be (part of) the correct answer: Don’t have to fear taking away peoples’ privelege to drive if transit it there to get them around afterward.