The lengths the US will go to to avoid building high-speed rail.
This is almost certainly a European thing.
It is a European thing!
https://liveandletsfly.com/ryanair-showcases-standing-room-vertical-seats/
Ryanair has no plans to introduce them. (sorry for the metro link).
Also Ireland kind of gets a pass they don’t have a rail link to anywhere. A Dublin-Holyhead tunnel would definitely be a good idea.
It sounds quiet ridiculous, but I also had some flights that were so short (~50 min) that it almost took more time to seat everybody. Anyway, I would love to read those safety reports. Not only is sitting better on impact, but also cramping more people in the same machine, means more people (which trend to not comprehend the idea of leaving their luggage behind) share the exit routes.
If people actually pay for this it’s on them
If it catches on, these seats will be the base price and seated places will become premium. It will impact everyone that travels by plane.
How people can look at (mostly) state owned rail vs private airlines and still think the free market benefits the average person is one of life’s big mysteries to me.
Next step - put bicycle seats, reducent material for backs. Then add bicycle pedals for engines, to reduce fuel usage. None said anything about actually reducing ticket price by that, high prices stays forever.
There’s an idea. Flights that people can make standing, should be banned, except when there is a body of water between the destination.
Airlines: “You’re not gonna believe what clouds are made of…”
I declare clouds are not a body of water, merely a spirit of water.
Almost mist that joke
Oh, yes corporations. I guess body of Liquid water then. 😂
Edit: 2x2 Km minimum size.
These standing seats have been coming next year for the past decade, but they always failed safety tests. Planes need to be evacuated within a certain time frame, which does not work when the plane is too densely packed.
Can’t they go Middle Earth on them and just create more doors?
I think we should relax rules on how quickly it is to evaluate a plane, and focus more on keeping the plane in the sky. (looking at you Boeing)
I’d love sleeping pods or bunk beds on a plane and accept the higher risk of not being able to get out quickly.
Cars and probably even train are infinitely more dangerous and we accept those risks every day.
Why not both?
There is no legitimate reason why trains or cars should be more dangerous modes of transport than flights. It is just that the lobbies for cars and capitalist train operations successfully desensitized everyone to it, so “deadly car crash” is just shrugged away. In the US we see similar attempts to make planes less safe and just accept the numbers of people killed in preventable events.
IDK about trains, but the problem with cars is that we let people operate them with minimal training and practically no oversight. You see shit on roads daily where if the driver was flying a plane, they wouldn’t even be let on as a passenger anymore ever.
I had a buddy from Northern Ireland take the Massachusetts driver’s test and he was blown away over how many things weren’t checked.
We could increase the training requirements and oversight. We could design road-networks in a way that makes speeding more difficult and enact stricter speed limits.
Whenever these measures are taking in an area they greatly reduce the number of people killed or seriously injured.
We could increase the training requirements and oversight.
I wish.
And who’s going to tell all those people that they are not going to drive again, ever? In pilot training, even showing signs of bravado or machismo is grounds for getting failed. The problem is that if you do that those people will go and vote you out, especially in this climate.
One of the main campaign promises of the idiot who got the most votes in the last Dutch election was to put the speed limits back to 130 kmh from the reduced 100 kmh on motorways. People like to be dumb.
BTW it would take minimal effort to enforce highway speed limits with cameras checking entry and exit times and distances. In some places with road tolls, it wouldn’t even need any more data collection. A single SQL query would return all those people doing 100 kmh over on the motorways. Wonder why outside of a few outliers, nobody does it.
Can I just sit on the floor like on a train in Poland?
Thats outdated thing, Polish trains now require You to play tetris, stack layers, that somehow doesn’t disappear. It’s like first person do sit on floor, then 2nd person sit on 1st, then 3rd sit on 2nd, and so on. Lucky ones who sit on toilet instead.
If you do not sit on the toilet, you become the toilet.
Ryanair be Like
That’s majestic
Honestly, I’m pretty tall and if it gives more room for my legs, I’d like to have the option
I’ve always imagined it would be like the seats on a stand-up rollercoaster, which are admittedly pretty comfortable; but if they don’t allow you to adjust the height, it could be hell for both short and tall people
Finally more leg room… But now your head bumps against the ceiling and you need to have your head tilted for the entire flight
Same answer as above
Most people can’t stand outside of the aisle because this area is meant to be seated (so they put storage space above the head). If the area outside the aisle is meant to be stood (not sure of my english), and they don’t remove the storage above the head, people are in their right to luigi those decision makers.
*stood -> standing
I stand corrected
Why do you assume there will be leg room?
This. The who point is to cram more seats than they are currently able
Presumably standing seats means standing up? Hopefully not squatting seats.
Is this gonna be another stand vs. squat debate?
No idea who fetterman is, I just image-searched “tall man in plane”
Will the height be adjustable? Otherwise the sitting thing will be either way to low or poking the backs of most people.
Insert short people dangling from them like kids from walkers xD
If you can stand up in a plane outside of the aisle, you’re not tall.
Most people can’t stand outside of the aisle because this area is meant to be seated (so they put storage space above the head). If the area outside the aisle is meant to be stood (not sure of my english), and they don’t remove the storage above the head, people are in their right to luigi those decision makers.
Is that fetterman?
Is he a drooling clown in a hoodie and shorts?
For a second I thought “Low quality cropping” was a new c/ being announced.
It could be
This looks like a pain in the balls in case of turbulence
passengers hanging outside not before 2030
You need to fly somewhere? Okay, fuck you.
Edit: wasn’t there just a story about how they are going to offer first class seats with five windows? I guess it is just gods and slobs now.
So I guess no putting your head between your knees in the event of a crash then, huh?
Well strapped to a sightly ergonomic plank upright is pretty safe, even better if you face away from the direction of the crash.
You need to pass yoga test to afford this seat
The only reason airlines would have you do that in the first place is so you can kiss your ass goodbye.
Not true.
I suppose it’s to protect your head from possible flying debris?
It’s to prevent you from becoming flying debris
It’s a play on put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye as in it’s not going to help you no matter what
Do you not know of Captain Sulemburger
Maybe they could replace that with a noose that comes down next to the oxygen. Then, if you get claustrophobic, you get off the plane any time you want.
The ‘ol Marylin Manson
