I feel like every story has a plot hole.

Especially time travel stories, none of them ever has a consistant rule of time travel.

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    23 hours ago

    Primer is very smart about explanations in that it never fully explains anything. You’re only seeing their understanding of what they’ve stumbled across, which we can reasonably assume they barely understand themselves. After all, they accidentally invented time travel trying to create a device that reduces the mass of objects lmao they have no fucking clue what’s happening. The scene where they are debating what happens since he accidentally brought his cell phone back highlights how out of their depth they are. I don’t remember the exact lines, but Aaron says how cell phones work by pinging different towers until they find your phone. Then when Abe asks him “are you sure?” He says “no.”

    They always kind of understand what’s happening but are ultimately making educated guesses.

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      23 hours ago

      Tbf the characters don’t have to understand or explain anything. If there is a way for the internal logic of the movie to work without contradicting itself, that should be good enough for no plot holes.

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        23 hours ago

        The point though is they partially avoid contradictions by baking into the story that we and they don’t know anything.

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          16 hours ago

          We still know what we see. Many movies are equally vague about the actual mechanics and still introduce contradictions.

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            11 hours ago

            Yes but this movie hinges on being technical and appearing specific. It’s kind of an interesting sleight of hand. They keep saying what the rules are but they don’t actually know the rules. There’s nothing to contradict. Literally the end of the movie is “how did this dude find out and travel back?” They have no clue what happened, they don’t know the rules, the possibilities are endless.

            They assume getting back in the box takes care of doubles. They are bleeding from their ears and losing fine motor skills. They are just guessing all the time, which means the rules aren’t defined and can’t really be contradicted.

            All we see are end results from the perspective of two guys too clever and reckless and unethical for their own good. We know almost nothing for sure.

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              4 hours ago

              Ideally you shouldn’t completely trust the characters either way. But ok it might be easier for the movie to avoid issues when there’s little info. It gives more work to the viewer too.

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                It definitely gives a lot of work to the viewer, especially the last 15 minutes or so. I find most people who are kind of getting it typically lose the thread during the Granger debacle, sometimes during the party scene.