Microsoft fires Joe Lopez for disrupting Genocide-profiteer Satya Nadella during Microsoft Build Keynote speech and bans words like “Palestine”, “Gaza” and “Genocide” in all company emails!!! Yet another chapter in a long tale of Microsoft’s intimidation, retaliation, repression, and censorship culture.

Source - Tools to view without account.

  • teslasaur@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    16 hours ago

    No, for voting on something you disagree on. Look at yourself. You immediately go for some fucked up comment on my position when you don’t even seem to understand it.

    Your reaction would be similar to a MAGA-cunt saying something like “Well, good luck supporting those perverted child molesters you call trans”. Take a step back and touch some fucking grass, you utter tool.

    • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      15 hours ago

      You are the one who said “cancel”, maybe you should be more specific if you want people to understand. That’s obviously assuming there actually is something specific you are referring to and it is not some inexistent you problem.

      Also, again, we are talking about a company supporting (multiple) fascist regimes, actual fascist regimes, not made up problems stemming from bigotry.

      Just so you can put everything in perspective since you seem confused here.

      • teslasaur@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        15 hours ago

        You’re the one putting a negative connotation on cancel. I put it in quotations so that you would understand that I i meant it figuratively. I figured it was a colloquially understood term in this context.

        Me having to put a 500 page manifesto in every post for you to understand my exact position on all issues seems both tedious and pointless. So lets break down what you’re saying.

        You seem to think that you shouldn’t be fired for something you think on a personal level, i merely pointed out the glaring hypocrisy of only applying that logic to people who think exactly the way you do. Much like those fascists you mentioned.

        We are, in fact, not talking specifically about Microsoft, altough it’s well within their rights to not want to keep an employee who disrupts work events. Exactly the same thing would have happened if they stormed in screaming “Go Israel, GO!” at the same event. The only difference is that you wouldn’t have had any issues with that person being escorted of the premise. So either you’re a hypocrite, or you don’t think rules apply to you.

        • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          14 hours ago

          You have absolutely ZERO basis to say that it would’ve been the same, but we have proof that supporting Palestine has resulted in this.

          So what are you talking about exactly?

          What is the “cancel” you mentioned and why you still haven’t explained yourself in the 500 page manifestos of your empty comments?

          • teslasaur@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            12 hours ago

            You have absolutely ZERO basis to say that it would’ve been the same, but we have proof that supporting Palestine has resulted in this.

            You still don’t get it, do you? Would you support that someone was fired for supporting Israel in the same way? And I mean exactly the same way, method and everything. Yes or no?

            hint (they would be fired, I’m asking you about your ethics)

            You were the one that said I was unclear, so I explained why. There is no point trying to explain my position to someone who wont bother with it.

            • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              12 hours ago

              I already answered this question, although I thought you meant something different, but it’s still the same, firing someone for saying something is not right.

              Once more, you have no way of saying they would be fired though. Assumptions have no value here, we can only talk about facts.

              The fact we have is that a company making business with a genocidal fascist regime gets butthurt when being called out. Are you ok with it?

              Also you are focusing on that single employee, while the post is about censorship of emails. Are you still ok with it?

              As I asked earlier, where do you draw the line?

              • teslasaur@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                12 hours ago

                firing someone for saying something is not right.

                Wonderful, some actual moral fiber from you.

                Once more, you have no way of saying they would be fired though. Assumptions have no value here, we can only talk about facts.

                Ok, here’s a fact. Being LGBTQ+ in palestine will get you arrested. Do you think that is right? I don’t blame the children of palestine for this, of course. Israel should be severly punished for blocking humanitarian aid that directly hurts children. But to think that palestine is some innocent fair and free society is blatantly wrong. They are a puppet of Hamas at this point.

                Calling Israel a fascist state when they are objectively surrounded on all sides by enemies that would have them killed, is weird.

                Also you are focusing on that single employee, while the post is about censorship of emails. Are you still ok with it?

                The entire post is about that single employee. Not about censorship of emails. It’s company email and they can do whatever they want with it, but I can also elect to not work for them. See how that works?

                I am absolutely against censorship. But I also acknowledge that there is ownership of “things”. In this case, a company has the legal right to do as they want with their stuff.

                • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  11 hours ago

                  Oh fuck, I wasn’t ready for the “Palestine is bad with LGBTQ+ people” and the “Israel has the right to defend itself” rhetoric… it all sounds so dated and meaningless…

                  How should that have anything to do with what we are talking about here?

                  What does all that have to do with Microsoft and its workers rights?

                  Also, are you saying that Nazi-Germany wouldn’t have been a fascist state if it was surrounded by enemies? Or that they would have been justified in their actions?

                  Can you think before typing surreal things and maybe limit yourself to discussing the topic?

                  • teslasaur@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    10 hours ago

                    Oh fuck, I wasn’t ready for the “Palestine is bad with LGBTQ+ people” and the “Israel has the right to defend itself” rhetoric… it all sounds so dated and meaningless…

                    You asked for facts, dumbfuck. Those are facts. Actual facts. If you can strawman, then so can I.

                    You also got my response of the workers rights, but since you don’t have anything more to add other than even more logical fallacies, then we’re done here.

                    Also, are you saying that Nazi-Germany wouldn’t have been a fascist state if it was surrounded by enemies? Or that they would have been justified in their actions?

                    Oh good god. You are a fucking idiot aren’t you? They aren’t comparable, at all. That’s the point. It’s a completely different conflict in a different geopolitical position, for different reasons, different people, different politically.

                    “Are you saying that…” is never a good start to an argument, my guy. You’ll end up looking like an idiot really fast.

                • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  12 hours ago

                  You either lack reading comprehension or you aren’t willing to comprehend then.

                  Oh well…