Microsoft fires Joe Lopez for disrupting Genocide-profiteer Satya Nadella during Microsoft Build Keynote speech and bans words like “Palestine”, “Gaza” and “Genocide” in all company emails!!! Yet another chapter in a long tale of Microsoft’s intimidation, retaliation, repression, and censorship culture.

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  • teslasaur@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    You mean like all of those who got cancelled for having private opinions? That already happened. Just not for things that you care about. There are plenty of examples of people who got fired for having “wrongthink” privately.

    Stop pretending that you have some ethical high ground.

    • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      19 hours ago

      For being sexist intolerant bigots? I consider that a bit too far, but hey, being a piece of shit isn’t an opinion.

      Thank you for outing yourself though, at least I know I’m wasting my time speaking with you.

      Good luck with your fascist regime.

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        16 hours ago

        No, for voting on something you disagree on. Look at yourself. You immediately go for some fucked up comment on my position when you don’t even seem to understand it.

        Your reaction would be similar to a MAGA-cunt saying something like “Well, good luck supporting those perverted child molesters you call trans”. Take a step back and touch some fucking grass, you utter tool.

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          15 hours ago

          You are the one who said “cancel”, maybe you should be more specific if you want people to understand. That’s obviously assuming there actually is something specific you are referring to and it is not some inexistent you problem.

          Also, again, we are talking about a company supporting (multiple) fascist regimes, actual fascist regimes, not made up problems stemming from bigotry.

          Just so you can put everything in perspective since you seem confused here.

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            14 hours ago

            You’re the one putting a negative connotation on cancel. I put it in quotations so that you would understand that I i meant it figuratively. I figured it was a colloquially understood term in this context.

            Me having to put a 500 page manifesto in every post for you to understand my exact position on all issues seems both tedious and pointless. So lets break down what you’re saying.

            You seem to think that you shouldn’t be fired for something you think on a personal level, i merely pointed out the glaring hypocrisy of only applying that logic to people who think exactly the way you do. Much like those fascists you mentioned.

            We are, in fact, not talking specifically about Microsoft, altough it’s well within their rights to not want to keep an employee who disrupts work events. Exactly the same thing would have happened if they stormed in screaming “Go Israel, GO!” at the same event. The only difference is that you wouldn’t have had any issues with that person being escorted of the premise. So either you’re a hypocrite, or you don’t think rules apply to you.

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              14 hours ago

              You have absolutely ZERO basis to say that it would’ve been the same, but we have proof that supporting Palestine has resulted in this.

              So what are you talking about exactly?

              What is the “cancel” you mentioned and why you still haven’t explained yourself in the 500 page manifestos of your empty comments?

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                12 hours ago

                You have absolutely ZERO basis to say that it would’ve been the same, but we have proof that supporting Palestine has resulted in this.

                You still don’t get it, do you? Would you support that someone was fired for supporting Israel in the same way? And I mean exactly the same way, method and everything. Yes or no?

                hint (they would be fired, I’m asking you about your ethics)

                You were the one that said I was unclear, so I explained why. There is no point trying to explain my position to someone who wont bother with it.

                • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  12 hours ago

                  I already answered this question, although I thought you meant something different, but it’s still the same, firing someone for saying something is not right.

                  Once more, you have no way of saying they would be fired though. Assumptions have no value here, we can only talk about facts.

                  The fact we have is that a company making business with a genocidal fascist regime gets butthurt when being called out. Are you ok with it?

                  Also you are focusing on that single employee, while the post is about censorship of emails. Are you still ok with it?

                  As I asked earlier, where do you draw the line?

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                    11 hours ago

                    firing someone for saying something is not right.

                    Wonderful, some actual moral fiber from you.

                    Once more, you have no way of saying they would be fired though. Assumptions have no value here, we can only talk about facts.

                    Ok, here’s a fact. Being LGBTQ+ in palestine will get you arrested. Do you think that is right? I don’t blame the children of palestine for this, of course. Israel should be severly punished for blocking humanitarian aid that directly hurts children. But to think that palestine is some innocent fair and free society is blatantly wrong. They are a puppet of Hamas at this point.

                    Calling Israel a fascist state when they are objectively surrounded on all sides by enemies that would have them killed, is weird.

                    Also you are focusing on that single employee, while the post is about censorship of emails. Are you still ok with it?

                    The entire post is about that single employee. Not about censorship of emails. It’s company email and they can do whatever they want with it, but I can also elect to not work for them. See how that works?

                    I am absolutely against censorship. But I also acknowledge that there is ownership of “things”. In this case, a company has the legal right to do as they want with their stuff.