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    14 hours ago

    It’s not perfectly normal. Believe it or not, I was a child at one time. Never put on a leash. My brothers and sisters, never leashed. Nieces and nephews? No leashes for them. Okay maybe it’s just my family.

    Going to parties with other kids? Never saw a child on a leash there.

    Out of state? I traveled many states as a kid, I didn’t see other kids on leashes at the ST. Louis Arch, nor at the Smithsonian.

    The first time I saw a kid on a leash, was in Atlanta, at age 14.

    It. Is. Not. Fucking. Normal.

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      Just because YOU weren’t didn’t mean it isn’t common. Your parents did it the hard way. For no reason.

      I was leashed as a toddler in the early 90s. I am not ashamed of that.

      You don’t leash kids at parties, that’s an enclosed private space with little risk of them running off, what a weird pointless anecdote. You apparently being sheltered isn’t a good argument.

      Sounds like you weren’t going to places where very young children were in attendance. You use them in busy public places that require movement. Like a zoo. You see them all the time at places like that. It’s better than a stroller and you don’t have to worry about a half second of taking your eyes off the kids, they’re jetting into the crowd. Even more useful if you have multiples.

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        14 hours ago

        You apparently being sheltered isn’t a good argument.

        Complete missed where I had traveled across the US as a kid.

        I don’t think I was a sheltered kid. 7 of us vs one parent at a time didn’t leave a lot of bandwidth for them to be helicopter parents. Wasn’t a latchkey kid either. I’d walk myself and my brothers home from school most days. During the summer we’d walk down to the pool on our own, or sometimes take a younger sibling with us if they wanted to go (surprise surprise, no leashes at the pool) or we’d walk across town and grab snacks from the grocery store (still no leashes).

        Leashing kids is not normal, if you don’t believe me, try to find video of a place where more than 3 are leashed in the background of a news report or puff piece.

        The vast majority of kids aren’t leashed. It’s not normal.

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          14 hours ago

          Traveling across the US doesn’t mean you went to places where small kids congregated. It’s also more common NOW than it was back then.

          Why are you acting like people are leashing 8-10 year olds. You use them when the kids are 1-3 so they’re not stuck in their stroller the whole time you’re at some public place (which is probably what your parents did with you). It really sounds like you think parents are tying their kid to a post, instead of having a connection on their wrist. Your arguments come across as if you have zero idea what we’re talking about and only had a visceral overreaction to just hearing this concept for the first time.

          The kids often enjoy it, too. They think they’re the ones leading their parents.

          try to find video of a place where more than 3 are leashed in the background of a news report or puff piece.

          What a stupidly arbitrary and specific demand for proof.

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            Why are you acting like people are leashing 8-10 year olds.

            The kids I saw leashed were primarily in the 6-12 range if I had to guess. They absolutely were not 2-4.

            What a stupidly arbitrary and specific demand for proof.

            I can find you a video of a news report with kids in the background where none of them are leashed in just a few minutes, mainly because the vast majority of children are not put on leashes.

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              14 hours ago

              I do not believe for a second that a 12 year old would sit there allowing themselves to be leashed. Some 12 year olds are basically full grown adult sized people.

              I’m talking about toddlers. I’ve said that multiple times. You keep imagining dumb shit that is not happening. So you’re right, the vast majority of non toddler children are not on leashes. Congrats. What a fucking stupid conversation this was. No one said otherwise. You invented a thing that wasn’t happening to be angry at.

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                14 hours ago

                I do not believe for a second that a 12 year old would sit there allowing themselves to be leashed. Some 12 year olds are basically full grown adult sized people.

                Well you’re wrong.

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                14 hours ago

                You can find one video of people not doing one specific things, really easily. I’m not sure what you thought this proved.

                I was always, and still, only talking about toddlers. Are there 3+ toddlers in a crowded public space in that video?

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                  14 hours ago

                  Sure. 3 plus kids, in crowded spaces next to a STREET! It’s amazing they all survived.

                  On a related note, I didn’t have to do anything special to find you that video. I just looked for “New Community Festival” and picked the first one that wasn’t about a mass shooting. You know why it was so easy to find? Because leashing kids is not normal.

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                    14 hours ago

                    I specified TODDLER. You keep only saying kid. There’s a difference. I know you know that. But your are determined to have a completely different conversation than I am here

                    I didn’t say you had to do anything special. That’s my point. It’s really fucking easy to find videos that are completely off topic from the conversation.