The cloud is just someone elses computer, you could pay 19.99 a year for 100 gbs of storage on some shady corporations server somewhere for them to inevitably jack up the price. Or you could not be an idiot and buy a 128 gb flash drive for 14.99 one time and have that storage forever.
Flashdrives are not forever storage. Flashdrives corrupt literally all the time. And old flashdrives that sit around also corrupt while not in use. If you care about your data, store that data in multiple places. Follow the data hygiene rules. 3 2 1: 3 copies of the data, on 2 different storage mediums, with 1 copy off-site.
Got it so buy a second drive, and pay $15/mo to the cloud storage company.
If you’re willing to deal with managing it, 125gb on s3 seems to cost about $3 per month.
forever is a long time. distributed copies might last beyond my time. eh
You think you can do better for 15 dollars go ahead.
15? I pay like 80 euro for 1 year m365 family. That’s 5 Terrabyte for 80/12=6,66 euro/month.
That’s less then a cent per GB. Much less. Combine that with Amazon photos (Unlimited photo storage, included with prime) and i’m set.
There is no cheaper storage plan.
you completely missed the point
buy the 32g thumbs for about $5. load with mp3s-4s and give as gifts. for backups
TBF that’s forever until your house burns down with it inside
or the drive wasn’t plugged in for a long time, causing the flash storage to degrade
I recently wasted multiple evenings going through this with my partner’s photos on both OneDrive and Google. It was a nightmare, trying to disentangle their systems from the cloud, and delete stuff from the cloud (they were hitting the free quotas, which was causing problems) without also deleting that content locally.
I ended up doing a full backup from the cloud to an external drive and unplugging it just to be sure, then carefully using the awful web interfaces to delete a bunch of photos and videos from the cloud after deactivating all the auto-backup “options”, which is apparently the only way to do it without also wiping your local media. There doesn’t seem to be any way to do it while using the “service” normally on the device; any attempt to delete from the cloud will also delete your local copy.
People have called me paranoid for seeking out and removing/deactivating these “services” with extreme prejudice on my own devices, but this experience was even worse than I’d imagined.
trying to disentangle their systems from the cloud, and delete stuff from the cloud (they were hitting the free quotas, which was causing problems) without also deleting that content locally.
…and that’s Microsoft’s entire game. Get old people to pay more for higher tiers of storage because your mom doesn’t understand why she has no storage left for the family picnic photos.
Yeah, such a service, deleting your files!
I ran into a fun one where both google and Xiaomi backed up my photos, that was a nightmare to save and clean out. They would write back deleted files (hey look we restored your list files!) and the other service would back them up again lol.
It’s almost as it’s not meant to be useful but a trap to fall into eh.
As soon as I saw that mustache I wanted to get out my knife as well.
Hey, moustaches make you a better programmer
I love my jobs implementation of onedrive. It copies files from my hardrive, erases the local copy, and then loses the remote version.
Microsoft ate my homework
I died with this hahahahha
Just activate the option to keep a local copy, right click the folder your files are in and choose “keep local copy”
“your administrator has restricted your ability to change this setting”
You say this like it makes sense that this functionality isn’t the default. Why the fuck does that make sense to you?!
The idea is that you can have more data online than you can fit on your computer.
It makes sense for SharePoint when there can easily be enough data to cause space problems on employee computers.
It doesn’t really make sense for it to be the default for personal OneDrives though.
It also allows IT depts to deploy thin clients for a fraction of the cost of a full desktop (along with the crap performance for actual multitasking).
It is the default, but some IT people decide to set shit up a particular way that makes things stupid, and some even lock those settings for some dumbass reason…
You’re the only one who talked about if it makes sense or not, calm down and go for a walk
Thanks! It was “Always keep on this device” but I didn’t know that was an option. I was able to fully download a folder where individual items could not be retrieved. Awesome!
Apple lets you do this with ebooks, then you turn off iCloud sync thinking it’ll just keep all the local copies you just individually downloaded…
nah deletes ‘em all
Man, with the Linux users on one side and daddy Microsoft high on the cloud, C: don’t get no respect!
I remember having a 90$ Android phone that was also loaded with bloatware.
I’d like to find a phone that isn’t, mine is certainly full of crap I don’t want.
Use an open source android ROM like lineageOS
ms permmisions tricks… take ownership of it’s folder. delete other perms. everyone denied. gets an error and doesn’t start. done
And people say you have to be a hacker to use Linux.
I just uninstalled it on my work pc. I got fed up when certain applications saved a cache to somewhere in %APPDATA% that got backed up every Tuesday. The apps then saw the cache changed and attempted to reconcile the changes and corrupted my work.
Never again.
ms backup has never worked. onedrive will come back until you trip it and let it think it’s already installed. btdt
Something, something, Linux, something, something, autism.
dd -of /dev/null
Almost all the new hires at work save shit to one drive and teams and it’s incredibly annoying to locate anything. Just save it to the dang shared drive.
I had to force people in our lab to use the shared drive, they were all so resistant to it for some reason. Lo and behold they love it now because its easy to share stuff and you can use any computer to get it.
Linux, people… Linux!
Eventually, they’re gonna make changing the OS illegal and burn in windows into the hardware. Welcome to the world of tomorrow! 🙃
And that’s the point where I’ll go off the grid
Buy a ThinkPad, download Wikipedia, print as many books as you can, spend 6 months binding those books, die from dysentery or almost starve to death in winter.
This is also my retirement plan.
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microsoft: hey lets set up onedrive and make it your new documents folder for everything on your computer
also microsoft: oh yeah you only get 15gb unless you pay more but we won’t tell you that and once full you can’t use your documents folder
Why MIcrosoft can’t develop a good desktop app when they have a huge amount of money and loads of staff. Not to mention owning the operating system a majority of people use, meaning the app, syncing, backing up, etc. can be super optimised for it without any fuss for using workarounds. NO MS, PUTTING ALL MY FILES INTO A “OneDrive” FOLDER IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. WHY IS THERE TWO OF THEM??? “OneDrive” and “OneDrive - [org name]”??? WHAT??? AND YOUR TASKBAR ICON THING FOR ONEDRIVE IS ANNOYING. WHY CAN’T I QUIT ONEDRIVE WITHOUT OPENING THE MENU???
Thankfully I switched to more competent cloud providers. pCloud is pretty good, they just sync your files. No stupid “moving all your folders into a pcloud folder and making two of them one of which is empty for some reason”. Super duper simple. And pcloud definitely has many times less budget and staff than MS. Jottacloud is also great, pretty similar to pcloud in that it only syncs files. WHY ARE THESE MUCH SMALLER COMPANIES DOING A WAY BETTER JOB THAN MS???
The reason MS puts all the main folders in onedrive is because users are tech illiterate. Most dont understand they need to place files into a special directory to be swished away to the cloud service. I know, because I’ve done the same thing when i setup my parents pc with linux… no matter how many times i explain “just place the files in this folder to automatically synced” all their files just up in the standard home directories never to be synced. I ended up just symbolic linking the home directory to one in the cloud directory. >_>
Now how MS managed to even fucked that up… well thats a whole other story.
that makes sense…but why is there two of them? That’s really weird. And I don’t think they want you to quit OneDrive…
Also, since they own the operating system (Windows), they could easily just sync the folders directly. (Documents, Pictures, Desktop, Music, and Videos) That’s where most people put their files in, so why not just sync that? Why move everything into a special OneDrive directory with all the issues that comes with that?
This sounds like a problem I’m too Linux to understand
I am almost 100% ubuntu, but working in home office and remoting to use my three monitor setup from work (windows) at home is a nightmare. Remmina is the best at the moment and she laggy as, and getting it to use all three screens at work, at home… Nightmare
Never found remmina to be laggy but never tried with 3 monitors. Still sounds better than what I had to do when i had to work from home a few years ago. I had to run a windows vm, to log in to citrix at work (didn’t work directly in Linux for me then) to then remote desktop into servers and work in emacs there. It was virtualization hell. It worked but oh boy was everything laggy… Should have gone one deeper and ran my linux on a hypervisor for a true beauty of a setup.
A reminder that if your data is not backed up in a different physical location, then it is not safe.
Reminder that you should choose where to back up to, not Microsoft.
Agreed, but most people don’t backup at all. Then complain very loudly when they lose everything and blame everyone else other than themselves. Saw it daily fixing people’s phones.
The technically inclined were the worst offenders, they always felt like they knew better than the defaults but they never actually set anything up.
OneDrive sucks but it is better than losing everything because your shit suddenly dies.
All I ever see is most people using (whatever system cloud provider comes with their computer/phone/tablet) and forking over $3, 5, $10, $20 a month to make the “your cloud is full!” alert to go away.
Somewhere in the middle is the way, and in countries like the US, that something in the middle should probably not be a US cloud provider anymore.
To be honest, from experience with the general public selling and supporting phones since the beginning of the smartphone revolution, anything other than the built in option is more complicated than most people can handle. They just get overwhelmed and then do nothing.
Most people are completely willing to ignore that message and will then complain that they lost everything just because they didn’t pay the $1-2 a month upgrade that would have covered their storage needs with that built-in dummy-proof option that requires zero setup.
Agreed, but most people don’t backup at all. Then complain very loudly when they lose everything and blame everyone else other than themselves. Saw it daily fixing people’s phones.
I’d love to back up my phone locally, if there was an option, but AFAIK there isn’t, so I’m stuck. This is a problem with companies forcing you into their cloud ecosystem and removing your ability to bypass it and control things yourself. It’s only getting worse.
I’d love to back up my phone locally, if there was an option, but AFAIK there isn’t, so I’m stuck.
Can you not use Syncthing?
Syncthing could be used to replicate a directory somewhere, but that doesn’t address backing up the phone itself (apps, settings, SMS messages, etc.). Only option I’m aware of is iCloud. You can connect the phone directly to iTunes on a computer and back it up that way, but that only works with a hardwired USB connection and can’t be automated, so it’s a non-starter for a regular backup system. Android probably has more options, I’m referring to iOS specifically here though.
Depends on the data, some data would be fine being deleted but not fine being leaked, some the other way around.
And also if you don’t try to restore your backups from time to time, you may actually not have any backups.
TRY AGAIN IN THREE DAYS
