• Ole10@lemm.ee
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    20 hours ago

    Cool, now switch places place. First one: Israel has a right to exist exist Second: Nazi! Youre commiting genicide!

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      19 hours ago

      They sure do. Who is currently massacring their people, bombing hospitals, and carving up their land for luxury resorts? I’m happy to protest that aggressor nation.

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      19 hours ago

      Uh… No? Countries don’t have a right to exist in general. People have a right to self-determination, but this is one thing and that’s another. Again, no country has a right to exist.

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        19 hours ago

        YouTube clickbait that still doesn’t say what you claim. In fact says the exact opposite. SMH

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          18 hours ago

          Yeah the UN special rapporteur speaking to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation during a presser with the Canadian government is total clickbait!

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            15 hours ago

            Yeah, language like “Watch this reporter get SHUT DOWN!” usually indicates clickbait.

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              Great, now address the content, because like I said you can find the same presser from CBC, I just took the easiest version to find.

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      16 hours ago

      Countries do not have a right to exist, particularly not if they want to exist on some other people’s land. Furthermore, why doesn’t this apply to a state for Palestinians having a right to exist? Not that I want that, it is doomed to fail like Pakistan and India. They all need to learn to get along and give people equal rights

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      19 hours ago

      Not like this. Frankly not like they’ve been for a very long time, the Israeli government is just super overt about it now.

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      18 hours ago

      Both sides have innocent civillians that deserve to live on that land.

      Both sides have absolute assholes that want the complete destruction of the other sides’ civillians.

      Fuck em both. They put up graffiti posters with Israel Palestine Israel Palestine is terrorism , and to me it just looks like this

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        15 hours ago

        Palestinians did nothing to deserve their land being stolen. It was European fascism that persecuted the Jews and caused the creation of Israel. Zionism was pushed by European antisemites to get the Jews out. The Palestinians had nothing to do with it and rightfully see Israel as a European colonial project rather than any kind of legitimate state

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          15 hours ago

          Palestinians did nothing to deserve their land being stolen.

          How did the British get their hands on it?

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            15 hours ago

            What does that have to do with ordinary Palestinians’ homes being confiscated? They have nothing to do with it

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              It was European fascism that persecuted the Jews and caused the creation of Israel. Zionism was pushed by European antisemites to get the Jews out. The Palestinians had nothing to do with it and rightfully see Israel as a European colonial project rather than any kind of legitimate state

              Well, this part needs some explaination and historical context, since you’re saying the Palestininians deserve something, and that the thing that is deserved was stolen.

              Because Palestine is just as much a distant historical idea as israel, since that land was in the hands of the ottomans that were then taken over by the british, while being promised to both jews and palestinians.

              For clarification, the British , with the help of traiterous arabs who thought they could hack it outside the ottoman empire, took those lands by force, then they did whatever the fuck they wanted to, because they took those lands by force, the same way any other territory belonged to any other group of people.

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                That’s pretty much true when it comes to Palestine as a country, but none of that excuses Israel claiming families homes they’ve been living in for generations. There was no such thing as a country of Palestine when Israel was created, but that doesn’t mean it was empty of people. Maybe they don’t have a good claim to a state of their own, but they do have strong claims on their own farms and homes. Those people rightfully don’t recognize Israel’s authority, especially when Israel is denying them basic human rights that they grant to Jews, i.e. apartheid