On May 12, California Governor Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, demanded that cities throughout the state adopt anti-camping ordinances that would effectively ban public homelessness by requiring unhoused individuals to relocate every 72 hours.

While presented as a humanitarian effort to reduce homelessness, the new policy victimizes California’s growing unhoused population—approximately 187,000 people—by tying funding in Proposition 1 to local laws banning sleeping or camping on public land.

In his announcement, Newsom pushed local governments to adopt the draconian ordinances “without delay.”

  • Monkey With A Shell@lemmy.socdojo.com
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    I have to wonder what the comparative rate is for CA vs other states. If I didn’t have a place and decided to just hop a rail to somewhere, that’d probably be a strong choice. Better weather than someplace like MN and less likely to get just tossed in jail or shot than one like FL/TX.

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      I couldn’t believe how many homeless people there are in MN. The environment is so harsh in winter, I’m sure some migrate south but many stay.

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      Till you are forced to live on the street through no fault of your own and it’s your belongings getting thrown away by police.

      But that would never happen to you, you got yours, you’re a good person because you aren’t poor enough to lose your home.

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        That is a made up situation. They have the chance to move all their belongings. What they leave behind is trash.

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          Unless they aren’t there when the police decide to randomly show up, you think all the homless have cell phones and get email updates on this shit or what?

          You are making excuses to needlessly make the most vulnerable people in our society suffer.

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            They don’t randomly show up. They post signs all over the area 48hrs in advance. They let the people leave with their stuff. I can tell you have never seen a clean up. And yes the homeless usually do have cell phones. They can get free phones with data easily. Over 90% of homeless have phones. Check out the Lifetime assistance program.

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              You clearly don’t know how these work.

              They usually don’t properly communicate any of that.

              They show up one day and if you are there you can take as much of your stuff as you can carry, if you aren’t there your stuff goes in the dumpster.

              I hope the day you lose everything because of some random bullshit you are treated no different, because unlike most homeless people, you will deserve it.

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                You think people are homeless over random bullshit? You live in a fantasy land. Also what kind of person wishes homelessness on someone? You act like the moral police but wish ill on other people. Says a lot about what kind of person you are. You only believe in your feelings and make up stuff to try to justify it.

                “He said cities should store belongings confiscated during encampment sweeps and give their owners a chance to claim them. He urged cities to give encampment residents a 48-hour warning before a sweep”

                You can read the Governor’s sample ordinance. There is a lot of emphasis on notification.

                “the Governor signed Executive Order N-1-24, which directed state agencies to develop policies to prioritize addressing encampments on state property while providing reasonable advance notice and partnering with shelter and services providers. That Executive Order also encouraged local governments to adopt similar policies, and to use all available resources and infrastructure, including the historic resources provided by the State, to take urgent action to humanely remove encampments from public spaces.”

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                  Oh yeah I really think the police will cooperate and not give them an exhaustingly difficult time, or simply delay and make the homeless more miserable. Go look up how hard it can be to get your stuff back with civil forfeiture, then think about how much harder it will be when you can’t have an up to date ID.

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    Lack of enforcement victimizes the working poor who have homeless camps in their neighborhoods.

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      The people worse off must be made to suffer more so that those slightly above them don’t have to be reminded of what awaits them if they slip from their already precarious position.

      Very ghoulish of you to use one disadvantaged group to attack another.

      I don’t blame you, i blame your mother and father for failing to raise a decent person. Your whole family is probably as vile as yourself.

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        LOL people like this are why the Democratic party keeps losing with the working class.

        Most people aren’t willing to sacrifice their quality of life for a stranger’s convenience.

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          If anyone asks me to completely abandon my compassion for human beings in one of the worst situations imaginable, then they can go fuck themselves. You can go fuck yourself.

          After calling you out for using one group against another, you quickly re-couched your position behind ‘this is what the working class wants’ and ‘winning the electorate’ because you’re cowardly. Your opinion has nothing to do with what you think will win elections or fits in with the mainstream, your explanation is only to protect your own ego from accusations of cruelty.

          Here is your actual opinion:

          You think homeless people have failed at life and don’t deserve the same dignity or respect afforded to everyone else.

          It’s darwinian, and if the shoe were on the other foot and you were in a similarly difficult position as they are now, you’d be crying and moaning about how you’re different and a special case and how you deserve our help and kindness.

          You’re selfish and lack empathy, and it’s so fricking obvious even randos on the internet can clock you. Do the world a favor and microwave your balls.

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        24 hours ago

        That some classist BS that renters don’t deserve a safe and clean neighborhood.

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          By definition, renters don’t own property. Therefore, it isn’t their neighborhood. They just live there.

          Thank you for pointing out that a description of existing property relations is classist, because it is.

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              What people deserve is a moral question that can’t be addressed without noting who actually owns our neighborhoods and the fact that the class interests of owners do not align with those of renters or unhoused persons.