Or perhaps the end of the beginning, if you’re a little more pessimistic.


Image is from this Bloomberg article, from which I also gathered some of the information used in the preamble.


While Trump was off in the Middle East in an incompetent attempt to solve a geopolitical and humanitarian crisis, China has been doing something much more productive.

Chinese officials, including Xi Jinping, had a summit with CELAC (a community of 33 Latin American and Caribbean countries). There, he promised investment, various declarations of friendship, and visa-free entry for 30 days for citizens of Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Peru and Uruguay. Lula signed over 30 agreements with China. Colombia is joining the New Development Bank and hopes to gain the money for a 120-kilometer railway connecting the Atlantic and Pacific coasts as an alternative route to the Panama Canal. Even Argentina, ruled by arch-libertarian and arch-dipshit (but I repeat myself) Milei, was uncharacteristically polite with China as he secured a currency swap renewal to shore up their international reserves.

It wouldn’t really be correct to say that Latin America is “siding with China over the US” - leaders in the region will continue to make many deals with America for the foreseeable future, and even Trump’s bizarre economic strongman routine won’t make them break off economic and diplomatic relations. What’s significant here is that despite increasing American pressure for those leaders to break off all ties with China, few appear to be listening - and given that China is perhaps the most important economy on the planet right now, that is a very predictable outcome.

As the current American empire takes actions to try and avoid their doom, those very actions only guarantee it. As Latin America grows ever more interconnected with China and continues to develop, America will grow ever more panicked and demanding, and this feedback loop will - eventually - result in the death of the Monroe Doctrine.


Last week’s thread is here. The Imperialism Reading Group is here.

Please check out the RedAtlas!

The bulletins site is here. Currently not used.
The RSS feed is here. Also currently not used.

Israel-Palestine Conflict

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA reports on Israel’s destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news.
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia’s youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don’t want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it’s just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists’ side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR’s former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR’s forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster’s telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a ‘propaganda tax’, if you don’t believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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    https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/05/21/748365/Israeli-forces-open-fire-on-diplomatic-delegation-visiting-Jenin-refugee-camp

    Israeli forces stationed at Jenin refugee camp have fired live ammunition at a diplomatic delegation as it was entering the camp to view the living conditions of the refugees.

    The diplomats that visited the camp on Wednesday were from Austria, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, China, Egypt, France, India, Japan, Jordan, Lithuania, Mexico Morocco, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Sri Lanka, Spain, Turkey, the EU, and the UK, along with representatives from several other countries and journalists accompanying them.

    The Palestinian Authority’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates had organized the visit for the international community to witness the Israeli regime’s ongoing aggression against the Palestinians in the Occupied West Bank.

    The Ministry had arranged a similar visit to Tulkarem city and the refugee camp in the northern West Bank last week.

    WAFA news agency reported that the delegation wanted to enter the camp from the eastern gate, where the regime has installed an iron gate, when the soldiers fired live ammunition directly and heavily at the diplomats and their entourage.

    In a statement, the Ministry said, “This aggressive act constitutes a flagrant and serious violation of the provisions of international law and the most basic rules of diplomatic relations stipulated in the 1961 Vienna Convention, which guarantees protection and immunity for diplomatic missions and delegations.”

    After the incident, the delegation visited the Jenin Governorate headquarters and reviewed the situation in the camp and the city.

    The camp governor, Mohammed Jarrar, explained in detail the city’s disastrous economic condition, the war’s impact on its facilities, and the destruction of infrastructure.

    More importantly, he described the extremely inhumane circumstances under which 22,000 Palestinians have been forced to abandon their homes and live in the tyrannical conditions the Israeli regime has forced upon them.

    Later, the Ministry condemned the assault by the occupation forces on the diplomatic delegation invited by the Palestinian Authority.

    Since October 7, 2023, when the Israeli regime began its genocidal war against Gaza, the number of attacks by settlers and occupation forces on the Palestinians of the Occupied West Bank has increased dramatically.

    The Israeli regime has also killed at least 1,000 Palestinians and abducted 7,000 in the occupied West Bank.

    Israel’s going to literally be firing on your fucking diplomats and you’re still not going to back off from them. There’s just absolutely no limit to anything they can do.

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      Israel has been killing western citizens, soliders, officals and aid workers for decades upon decades. The governments never cared. The disparity in treatment of russia or north korea is astronomical. 9/11 killed a few americans and destroyed two buildings and that caused 20+ years of violent rampaging through asia.

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        I’m almost morbidly curious to see how far they’re allowed to take it. Can they just start sending soldiers overseas to invade and occupy western states with no resistance? Can they just start launching nukes at China or Russia with no response? Can they murder a president on live television and mock the entire population of a country with no repercussions?

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          Maybe not the first two parts but the last one, I could definitely believe. They have a lot of goodwill to burn through, due to their advantageous position in the maintaince and expansion of the empire. It will only cease if israhell becomes too costly to maintain. It took until the soviet union fell and fear of a communist south africa was out of the carts for apartheid to end.

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      Dnepropetrovsk is basically mostly flatlands, unlike donbass which is 20 Maginot lines and industrial nuclear-bomb-proof factories with build in superbunkers. They basically need to annex it anyways to secure Donbass as a holding.

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    Short Finland news:

    First up, some warmongering:

    Finland is using frozen Russian assets to provide Ukraine with heavy ammunition, the government announced on Monday.

    The Defence Ministry said Finland will deliver heavy ammunition to Ukraine, financed through profits generated by frozen Russian assets.

    The initiative is part of a broader EU effort to support Ukraine with military supplies funded by the interest accrued from Moscow’s frozen assets. Finland is one of the member states implementing this programme.

    Second, some more warmongering:

    Russia building up base along Finnish border, New York Times reports.

    Satellite imagery reveals large tents, shelters for fighter jets and warehouses for military vehicles — but Nato officials say the activity is nothing like the buildup along the Ukrainian border before Russia’s 2022 invasion.

    nato-cool

    Third, some TikTok shenanigans. Background to this is that a local PM from the far right Basic Finns party has come out with strong opposition to this data centre:

    Social media giant TikTok told Yle that the company remains fully committed to the Kouvola project, despite political concerns over the company’s links to China.

    “We have high expectations for this investment,” said Christian Hannibal, TikTok’s head of public policy in Finland.

    He said the facility under construction in Kouvola’s Koria district will play a major role in TikTok’s European operations. It is part of the company’s 12-billion-euro ‘Project Clover,’ aimed at ensuring that European users’ data is stored and processed within Europe. Of this total, one billion euros is allocated to the Finnish data centre.

    The other Project Clover data centres are located in Norway and Ireland and serve the same purpose — storing TikTok users’ data.

    This links to concerns raised by Finland’s Minister of Economic Affairs, Wille Rydman (Finns), who warned that China could potentially bypass US chip restrictions via the data centre in Finland.

    The Rydman guy is fully revealing who’s pocket he really is in with these “concerns”.

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    With Trump’s meeting with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa and his delegation set to start in less than 10 minutes, (15:30 UTC) let’s see what US strategic think tanks are saying:

    CSIS, May 19 2025 - Can South Africa’s President Fix His Bilateral Relationship with Washington?

    That’s not good…

    Meeting hasn’t started yet, running late as usual.

    One of the flag bearers fainted, that’s all that has happened so far.

    Ramaphosa has arrived, and shook hands with Trump.

    Meeting now started in the oval office. Trump is praising South African golfers.

    Ramaphosa is sucking up to Trump hard. Very much offering tribute to the king vibes.

    Trump is playing EFF Julius Malema clips… This is going to go to shit.

    Ramaphosa basically disowned Malema

    Steenhuisen made a statement, denouncing Malema, and saying that the DA joined the ANC to keep the EFF and Malema out of power.

    Trump has asked why South Africa don’t arrest Malema and ban the EFF.

    Goosen the golfer is now speaking, he says South Africa needs the United States as an ally for help, mentioning how the US helped the apartheid government in the war in Angola.

    Johan Rupert, the South African billionaire, is now speaking. Clearly wants a deal for starlink, technological assistance, and shutting down the South African border with Zimbabwe, and complaining that Malema targets him. Fucking hell this is bad. He wants South Africa to do the same thing that the US did with its immigrants and gangs.

    Trade union boss is saying Rupert is right, and saying that there is no expropriation without compensation. Capitalist realism.

    Live video link on YouTube from South African state media (SABC)

    AP News live YouTube link

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      Goosen the golfer is now speaking, he says South Africa needs the United States as an ally for help, mentioning how the US helped the apartheid government in the war in Angola.

      I had the displeasure of meeting a different SA golf pro’s tour bus driver, who only referred to Tiger Woods as ‘that removed’ (my slur filter, not the site’s). So yeah Goosen definitely dog-whistling here. Least racist SA golf pro.

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        This is just circus, the real thing is going to be the topics discussed in the CSIS article. Either South Africa changes domestic policy and foreign policy, or this media circus and smear campaign continues, along with sanctions.

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          Man said opposite of apartheid when white South Africans still have majority of arable land, majority of the wealth picard

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      If you’re interested in the South Africa situation I recommend Patrick Bond.

      I’ll quote the relevant part of this recent interview

      spoiler

      But unfortunately, that strength is balanced by a weakness. And the weakness is profiteers. And there are profiteers across the BRICS. And South Africa’s profiteers include an arms merchant who’s a bastion of the Zionist establishment – Ivor Ichikowitz – and he’s had deals with Elbit, deals that supply fascistic governments in Latin America – Ecuador’s army – with not only military vehicles, but Elbit souping them up for communications. And that continues. He’s also – Ichikowitz – supplying the Israeli, well, the Jewish people’s spiritual support, which is tefillin, which is a leather strip that you bind around your arm, with a verse from the Torah in a small box on your head. That’s what this guy Ivor Ichikowitz, who is an arms merchant and an ANC member, and, as recently as mid-2023, the number one donor to the ANC, as the public records at least have shown. And that means, when the genocide began in October 2023, Ichikowitz was schizophrenic and split. And instead of still supporting the ANC, he has come out very strongly – especially in articles in 2024 and statements the whole time – against South Africa’s support for Palestine.

      Now, that’s just one angle – the arms dealing. And then we have Rheinmetall, which is the German company that owns big chunks of Denel, South Africa’s state-owned arms company. Are weapons being made in South Africa – in Somerset West or in Centurion – are they going up to not only to Rheinmetall in Germany, but onward, including to Israel? It’s an open question. We’re not sure. We have a very ineffectual National Conventional Arms Control Committee meant to look this over – and they’re not doing well. There are a few other arms dealers that we’re curious about – the extent to which, certainly historically, Armscor and Israel, and indeed going back to the 1970s nuclear collaboration.

      The other big problem, though, is coal – which is very open. Because we can track the coal-bearing ships that go from Richards Bay all the way up to Hadera port, and to some extent Ashdod. At Hadera, there is the Orot Rabin power station. At Ashdod, it’s the Rutenberg station. And those are supplying Israel with about 20% of its grid-based energy. And that’s a very important part of the supply that the Israel Defense Forces would use to prosecute that genocide or to maintain apartheid. And it would therefore be against the International Court of Justice ruling in July – that was actually codified by the United Nations General Assembly in September – that says: don’t do electricity supply or any other goods crucial for the apartheid, the land grabbing of the West Bank too, not just the genocide of Gaza.

      So we’ve got a couple of, let’s say, screaming contradictions. And it’s even more embarrassing, I think, for South Africa, because President Ramaphosa used to be the main partner of the main company that sells coal to Israel – both from South Africa, but also from Colombia. And they’ve continued that, even into this year, in spite of the Colombian president telling them not to.

      And that company – Glencore – is notorious for bribing African governments. They were not prosecuted for the activities in South Africa, but across the rest of Africa, the prosecutions, including in the US and Britain, have shown that this is a very corrupt company. And they have chosen – particularly because their predecessor, Xstrata, was doing deals with the African Rainbow Minerals chief executive, Patrice Motsepe, who happens to be President Ramaphosa’s brother-in-law.

      Now we have found – and a protest in early April confirmed this – 23% of Glencore’s ownership is of the mines in question in Mpumalanga that get the coal out and get them coal over to Israel. That would be profits to Patrice Motsepe, we estimate, out of about a $5 million profit – that is the net income after the costs – for each of the 177,000 tons of coal that are put on the ship and shipped out to Israel, Patrice Motsepe makes about a million dollars. So these are the sorts of, let’s say, contradictions that just scream out, and that we hope more pressure will allow us to resolve – resolve in favor of Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions of Israel.

      And also here in December last year, From South Africa to Syria, rising perils for Palestine solidarity, just a small part, he was 110% bang on.

      spoiler

      A repeat performance is most worrying to progressives here, in large part because South Africa’s Richards Bay bulk minerals port has become – since August – the world’s main terminal for exporting coal to Israel, which depends on the Orot Rabin and Rutenberg power stations for nearly 20% of its energy grid.

      It is to be expected that Trump will go on the offensive against the South African filing of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) genocide case against Israel. Trump is a proponent of Israel’s mass murder and illegal settlements, calling predecessor Joe Biden a “very bad Palestinian” during a debate last June, for not sufficiently helping Netanyahu to ‘finish the job’ in Gaza.

      But instead of helping to build the global movement against Israel by highlighting Trump’s threats, Ramaphosa’s new Ambassador to Washington Ebrahim Rasool – formerly part of the ruling party’s leftwing currents – let slip in an interview this week: “We need to put away the [Palestine-solidarity] megaphone now. And the president’s words were, it is now sub judice… I understand the need to completely recalibrate…that’s the art of the deal. It is about framing the messages in particular ways that make South Africa an ally [of Trump].”

      Some might be surprised at this betrayal, including Ramaphosa’s nonsensical sub judice posture. Yet beyond its important ideological advocacy megaphone used at the Hague international courts, the Pretoria government has barely lifted a finger for Palestine.

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    Free Life of Kurdistan (PJAK), an Iran-based armed group widely believed to be an offshoot of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), on Monday said it will continue its armed struggle against Tehran despite PKK’s decision to dissolve itself and end its decades-long armed struggle against Ankara.

    “We, as PJAK, will neither lay down arms nor dissolve ourselves,” Amir Karimi, PJAK co-chair, told Aryen TV, a Sweden-based channel affiliated with Iran-based Kurdish political parties.

    (Source)

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        i mean if you ignore a large part of the evidence, like the long and continuing history of pro-Kurdish organisations in the west being treated as terrorists, including the British Metropolitan Police raiding a Kurdish community centre a few months ago, then yes, it’s possible to reduce the entire Kurdish nationalist movement, constituting millions of people spread across multiple continents, to “US proxies”

        alternatively you could just take a dialectically materialist view and acknowledge that nationalist movements, as with every single political movement in history, are internally contradictory, and of course contains collaborationist elements alongside liberationist elements. Because we’re not reactionaries, and we don’t want to paint entire ethnic/national groups with negative labels as though there’s some collaborationist bone in their brain, right?

        i mean like is the point of this to imply that the PKK is a US proxy?

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          I think you’re completely right and you made a great case why it’s silly to view the kurdish struggle as a controlled us proxy but that’s not what LoveYourself necesserily implied.

          LoveYourself mentioned kurdish separatists almost “functioning as a proxy” and I think that checks out, sadly. Obviously not all kurdish groups do it on purpose, I feel for their cause in general and I do think they’re anti-imperialist (just not anti-hegemonic) but their interests often line up against america’s enemies in the region so effectively while furthering their own goals they can at the same time be furthering america’s. But from your second paragraph I’m sure you know that already.

          So I think it’s fair to be a bit iffy when this type of stuff happens

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            If we call any group whose actions inadvertently benefit an outside force in some way a proxy then we’re diluting what the term actually means. The Ukraine war is a proxy conflict for the US, as the US directly funds the Ukrainian state and military, and sends mercenaries to fight on their behalf. If, as communists, we’re going to label a left-wing nationalist organisation which originated as part of a Marxist-Leninist organisation as a “proxy for the US” because they’re fighting against a right-wing Islamist government that occasionally fires a missile at israel (but sits idly by while the entity continues to starve millions of people, and did effectively nothing to help Hezbollah when it mattered the most), then what are we even doing anymore?

            i hate to use the word “campist” given its history but

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              If, as communists, we’re going to label a left-wing nationalist organisation which originated as part of a Marxist-Leninist organisation as a “proxy for the US” because they’re fighting against a right-wing Islamist government that occasionally fires a missile at israel (but sits idly by while the entity continues to starve millions of people, and did effectively nothing to help Hezbollah when it mattered the most), then what are we even doing anymore?

              That “right-wing Islamist government” did more than almost every other country and group, including the Kurdish nationalists you’re defending. At the end of the day, Kurdish nationalists have a curious tendency of aligning themselves with Western imperialism that stretches back decades. Killing Hope by William Blum outlines the repeated pattern of Kurdish nationalists aligning themselves with Western interests only to be thrown under the bus only to continue aligning themselves with Western interests only to be thrown under the bus again. At this point, they are either US proxies or demonstrate such sheer incompetence in understanding what the primary contradiction is that it slides towards malevolence. Whether through malice or idiocy, they should be treated as an obstacle by actual competent anti-imperialist forces. You don’t get points just because your intentions are true.

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              You forgot the word “functioning”

              In other words, there was no claim that they directly are proxies, but their function is the same. In practice, if you were to ignore the goals and statements entirely, because of the actions taken it would be indistinguishable from how a proxy would act. We know, because we’re careful and knowledgeable, that the Kurdish national struggle is much more complex, but a function is determined by its effects, not it’s intentions

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                In practice, if you were to ignore the goals and statements entirely, because of the actions taken it would be indistinguishable from how a proxy would act.

                SDF: working with America to occupy eastern Syria and loot its resources for years.

                PKK: lays down arms mere months after NATO successfully overthrows Syrian Baathist government following 14 years of imperialist aggression, despite fascist Turkiye still doing fascist Turkiye things.

                PJAK: only attacks Islamic Republic of Iran despite US occupation forces still present within spitting distance. Participates in color revolution attempts against the IRI.

                🤷‍♀️

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            That’s great, but I can find plenty of counter-examples of direct US collusion over the past decade with Iraqi groups that are supposed to be part of the “Axis of Resistance”, but whose resistance amounted to a couple of drones flown at the occupied Golan and then stopping when the US threatened them with the same kind of punishment their allies have already been receiving for months. Let alone some of the other factions in the PMF. Would you call them American proxies too?

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              I can find plenty of counter-examples of direct US collusion over the past decade with Iraqi groups that are supposed to be part of the “Axis of Resistance”

              Please share

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    Syrian Information Minister Hamza al-Mustafa said the US is not demanding normalization with Israel:

    “Normalizing with Israel is not a part of the American requests sent to the Syrian government. Different delegations from the U.S., from Western countries, came to Syria and asked if you can join the Abraham Accords. The [Syrian] governmental response was also clear. The Abraham Accords are between [sic] a state, Israel, that doesn’t occupy their countries”

    Hmm sounds too good to be true, could just be the syrian government feigning opposition before normalizing with israel anyways, but it does match with Trump saying he didn’t consult israel before restoring ties with Syria

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    Today’s combat footage.

    A Russian Iskander-M missile strike eliminated up to 70 Kiev regime troops at a training facility near the Sumy oblast settlement of Shostka: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/05/20/1349556.html

    Russian forces recently destroyed another US-built “Bradley” infantry fighting vehicle along the Kursk/Sumy border: https://odysee.com/@Support4Z:b/📽️-A-🇬🇧-🇫🇷,--The-enemy-in-a-Bradley,-tried-to-break-through-to-Kursk-Tyotkino:5

    Plus, a bonus video: Several Odessan women rescued a man from Kiev regime military conscription officers: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/05/17/1338823.html

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    If Corbyn ever gets into government by some miracle turn around in Britain I sincerely hope he’s feeling vindictive enough to go after every single one of these ghoulish fucks for their part in supporting and defending this genocide. They deserve to rot in prison and he would be in a position to get supreme revenge for what they did to him in the party.

    I don’t think he is vindictive enough but holy shit he really should go after them all if that opportunity arises.

    They all deserve worse than jail but i’d settle for it. Watching kids starve in real time live with nothing we can do about it is breaking my heart and filling me with a fire for inflicting pain to the ghouls that I can not describe.