How is this even possible? Like, seriously. No way that Cybertruck has high enough miles that it has bald tires, so how is it stuck in that spot?

  • CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe
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    10 hours ago

    I do a significant amount of driving, and unfortunately some of that is done in snow. I would recommend to everyone driving in snowy conditions as little as possible, it sucks & can become dangerous.

    I was not there. But sometimes if you drive a long distance & heat up your tires, then you park on top of snow, and your tires melt the snow…now your vehicle is effectively parked on a bunch of ice. 😑 This wasn’t ice before, there’s “powdered snow all around it” as some of you are saying, but there’s probably fucking compacted snow & ice formed under those wheels. Probably, again, idk. But I’ve parked & gone to take off, it’s hard to gain traction from parked when everything’s all slicked up. It really sucks.

    Recovery methods sand & kitty litter are fine, you can get a little shovel & work on digging yourself out it’s cute but idk you’re just wasting a bunch of time in bad weather conditions & it’s trial & error. I have bought GoTreads and they’re fucking amazing. Just place them, correctly, around the drive wheels in the direction you wish to go and slowly drive onto them to engage. Instant traction & it gets you unstuck, it’s probably saved me upwards of 6 times & I’ve only had them a couple years. I have saved 3 other people.

    The “go slow” thing is real, one of those saves was an Amazon Prime driver who was fucking stupid & spun up his RPMs very very fast. Because he was panicked…and a bad driver. High RPMs won’t help engage traction, will heat up tires & the GoTreads…and start to physically melt, destroy the GoTreads. So please, respect the wintery conditions, respect your car, and the recovery equipment. They’re still operational but they’re my backup pair.

    If you want to save some money I’ve also used The Portable Tow Truck grip strips, but they’re much cheaper built, not as compact, and I don’t believe they have a lifetime warranty like GoTreads do.

    …any recovery method you use is cheaper than a tow (or 2, or 3+). But it only works if you build it out before disaster strikes. Be prepared! It could save your time, your money, your car, or even your life. Winter driving is no joke.

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      spun up his RPMs very very fast. Because he was panicked…and a bad driver.

      I was in Calgary in 94, and in one winter at the intersection of MacLeod and 71 Ave S . I was turning left. It’s hard to see, but there’s just the smallest of slopes there.

      I’d driven a bit in the rockies in snow, by then; not as work, but for work like as a commute, sure. I wasn’t a noob but it was a year or so before I successfully moose-checked a 91 firefly coming west outta banff with an actual moose in an actual blizzard and remarkably no one died, so I was still a little virginal.

      And it was a bad day. It was Calgary, it was university days, it was three jobs and full-time comp-sci courses and a bad living arrangement with some really worthless family members, etc. Just, bad all 'round. And I was at the red. It went green. I sloooowwwwwly gave this piece of shit monte carlo some gas and the rear tires spun.

      And at that point I kinda slipped out of the groove a bit. I didn’t let up on the gas. I kept it there, the entire green-yellow-red cycle, just spinning and maybe crying a little at the futility of existence in Alberta at all, let alone in the dirty grey urban winter hellscape it is with all the really ignorant people around me, and *why the fuck was I even here in this place where places you have to go require a shitty car anyway and can I just maybe leave right now and aaaaaaaahh…" and, yeah.

      And the light turned green. And I remembered my training on a beetle in the snow, and I let off the gas a bit and even the wheels on this candy-ass front-engine floaty-ass-end shitty goddamned whaler of a car with no justification for even existence caught in the warm trough I made, and I started moving forward ever so slowly, and I crested the center and I made my turn and I continued on home after using the entire green to just cross the intersection, cursing and grinding my teeth and wiping my tears a bit amid the congratulatory honking of my fans.

      The thing is, we all lose our shit a bit, now and then, and just slip out of the tire ruts marked in the packed snow by the cars in front of you, and maybe we spin out a bit. The guy sitting in the front of the shitty car or amazon truck as it spins and he rages and maybe cries a little may be on an atypical day. Account for that in the calculations.

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        8 hours ago

        No doubt, no doubt. I got the man unstuck & on his way, and didn’t mention him burning up the GoTreads a little…but when I helped people in the future I made a point to say LISTEN. Go slow, gain initial traction/grip, then you can slowly add more power. Idk, it’s hard to describe, it sounds like you get it. It’s kind of like a good handshake or riding a bike, there’s a certain methodology to getting it right. But you know it when you “feel it”.

        And you know what, I just can’t let it go…I do have credible reasons for my biases specifically against Amazon Prime drivers. They seem to have very minimal training compared to other DSPs, and at least in my area, I have heard many complaints about the decisions they make on-road, and have seen a few of them, myself. Going the wrong way around a court. Parking on the wrong side of the road because that’s the side the house is on. They’ve got a well-deserved…‘meh’…reputation. Generally speaking.

        The man I helped, didn’t know him from Adam, and IIRC he didn’t stand a chance getting out. He was on the edge of a completely iced driveway, where he stopped before entering the road (no momentum, no movement, no traction). The correct response as a DSP would be to park on the edge of the road, throw on 4-way flashers, and walk it out. Driveway was no good. But as we discussed…you live, you learn, hopefully you do better in the future.

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    12 hours ago

    I don’t want to defend the cybertruck, but on a Prius Prime you’d also be completely stuck if you didn’t disable the traction control.

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      13 hours ago

      That really is the best part. For a “software defined truck,” it’s pretty wild that they haven’t figured out the traction control software

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    The fact that it is ungodly heavy definitely didn’t help. But it would have done a hell of a lot better had it had proper snow tires. Something they are legally required to have on Quebec roads during the winter, btw.

    But I fully expect a Cybertruck owner to be the kind of person who thinks that having AWD means you don’t need snow tires.

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      12 hours ago

      What are snow tires in Quebec? I recently learned that some states and provinces count M+S and 3pms tires to be snow tires, while I’ve heard of some as studded.

      Also, I thought the weight would actually help the cybertruck. A lot of 2WD trucks spin on snow and ice because there’s not enough weight on their drive axle so they can’t get enough traction

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        M+S won’t cut it. It needs to have the symbol below on it or be studded.

        As for the weight, more weight does not necessarily equate more better. There is a sweet spot where going on either side of it makes it worse. Too light and it gets no traction. Too heavy and it just sinks into the snow and digs itself deeper instead of moving forward, especially if the tires are too skinny for the weight which is likely the case for Cybertrucks judging from all the videos of them getting stuck in sand. I presume that where this sweet spot is depends entirely on the conditions.

        Also the RWD pickup trucks are especially bad in the snow not solely because of the lack of weight over the rear driving wheels, but mainly because it has to push along the undriven front wheels that are carrying most of the truck’s weight. It isn’t as much of a vehicle weight problem as it is a weight distribution over the driving wheels problem.

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      13 hours ago

      Heavy vehicles are exempt so is the cyber truck?

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    21 hours ago

    Because it’s funny, guy claimed there was ice under the snow. Looks like powder to me from the footprints, but I’m sure it’s like he says, slick as wet glass under that very manageable-looking terrain.

    Written like someone who’s never lived in a cold place. It’s incredibly common to get a bunch of rain, freeze while it’s raining, then turn to snow. That’s how you get a sheet of ice under a layer of powder.

    The CT is still a giant pile of shit though.

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      13 hours ago

      Never gotten stuck that way, and I’m from Chicago. Have you? That sucks.

      I figured the guy was making excuses for his shit-ass truck. Had that unpleasant odor to it.

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    Wish these critics would cut Tesla a break. Obviously this is the tropicalized model! And surely it’s the councils ONE job to salt/ clear the snow! The motor is designed for high torque, not high grip! Who even builds motors that are high grip?

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      16 hours ago

      This is a perfect apeing of the gish gallop gaslighting all regressives do at this point. Think I suffer ptsd from this shit at this point. Well played sir.

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      24 hours ago

      The council might be afraid of getting sued after the Cybertruck turns into a Corrosiontruck instantly after getting into contact with the salt.

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        23 hours ago

        Yeah. Bhut this is in Montreal, Musk has no power here. Maybe the camera-based fsd couldn’t tell between the white snow layer and the white sky and just gave up.