I hope this question is not too weird (if so just tell me and I’ll delete it).
As a 21 year old guy from Germany I always admired Americans. What particularly impressed me was their social skills, their outgoing/confident nature and humor.
I don’t know if it’s also connected with being a German but I’m generally a very shy and introverted person. I have very strong social anxiety and just when someone in public or a neighbor sees me, it creates this overwhelming anxiety because I’m so scared that I will embarrass myself and be awkward because I have very bad self esteem and don’t know what to say and how to act. So most of the time I end up saying nothing and hiding myself which is very awkward or I say the bare minimum like to the grocery store cashier like only “Hello” and “Thanks, bye”. I have this extreme amount of shame that’s blocking me.
Germans might often generally be introverted or awkward but I’m on a whole different level.
Then Americans seem like this stark contrast which feels like the exact opposite. It feels like Americans are on a different level of confidence and extroversion than any country I know.
That makes it almost impossible for me to interact with an American as it creates this immense pressure on me (also cause English isn’t my native language).
Even on a daily basis the way they’re having small talks in grocery stores or talk to strangers that they’re walking by seems impossible for me. And I’m afraid that if I ever would go to the US and people talk to me that I would be extremely awkward and don’t say anything and wouldn’t be able to smile. And I’m afraid that this might come over as rude and they think bad of me.
I really would wanna interact with an American in person cause it seems like it could be so enriching but right now that seems impossible.
I was wondering if there is anything particular that makes Americans so good at that or if they have any secret. Or maybe they’re just on a different level cause they’re from the best country in the world and are the best/most capable people in the world.
Cause it’s my ultimate dream to be on that same level and interact with people like Americans.
Maybe it’s impossible for me to get to anything near that and I will simply never be good enough.
As an American, I can say that I understand the feeling you are describing. The first thing I will say is that you aren’t introverted - you are probably a normal person who has a normal amount of desire to interact with other people. What you are describing is social anxiety. I highly recommend going to therapy to tackle this problem directly.
I will repeat: Find. A. Therapist.
Trying to tackle this issue on your own, with help from random strangers on the internet, is playing life on nightmare mode. If you ever progress at all, your progress will be agonizingly slow because you will procrastinate and work inefficiently because there is no one guiding you through the process or holding you accountable for doing the things you know you should do.
Going along with that, is there anyone in your life you feel comfortable talking to about your problems, like a friend or family member? If so, tell them how you are feeling, tell them how you hope to solve the problem, and ask them to hold you accountable. The more people you have supporting you, the easier it will be to take the necessary steps to overcome your anxieties.
Next, accept this: you are going to embarass yourself. A lot. In fact, in large part, embarrassing yourself is the whole point of doing things which challenge your social anxiety. Socially confident people do embarrassing things all the time - they accidentally rub someone the wrong way, or tell a joke that flops, or accidentally say something inappropriate, or get shot down when they ask someone out on a date. The difference is, they feel momentarily embarrassed, and then they let the feeling roll off of them and move on with their lives. They don’t see their embarrassment as representative of themselves as people, or think that their social faux pas will define them for the rest of their lives. The way you get there is by making mistakes, embarrassing yourself, and then noticing that you still have friends and people still want to talk to you. Your social anxiety is driven, in large part, by the fact that you never make mistakes, because you never actually say anything that might make you feel embarrassed. You are still hung up on the fact that that one time when you were 11, the other kids laughed at you when you didn’t know the capital of Argentina or whatever. All the socially confident people also had that experience, and then had a bunch more experiences like it, and now realize that momentary embarassment is no big deal. You’ve been avoiding being embarrassed, so now it is your job to make up that lost ground.
This leads us to an interesting question - what is the point of socializing at all? Because the goal you’ve been striving for all your life - to not be embarrassed; to never have anyone dislike you - is the exact opposite of how you overcome your social anxiety. So what should your new goal be? Well, it should be to express yourself honestly and authentically, and to have fun.
Two important points here.
First, being honest and authentic isn’t something you just do. It is something you gradually get better at over time. Your social anxiety is your habit of compulsively hiding your authentic self from others so that you can never be rejected - it takes time to break down that wall, and learn to express yourself in a way that truly and succinctly expresses who you are at that particular moment, so don’t beat yourself up if you feel like you “aren’t doing it right”. If you “can’t think of anything to say”, it is probably because your anxiety is telling you that your real, lived experience of the world is uninteresting to other people - that anytime you speak, you need to be blowing their minds with something beautiful or inspirational or hilarious. But this is not true at all. You can just say things that you notice. For example, you can tell the cashier at the grocery store “I love these things. I buy them all the time” when she finds up your favorite cookies. Or if you pass someone walking in the park, you can say “Hey, beautiful day, isn’t it?” Or “A bit dreary today…” An even better hack, though, is talking about how you feel, especially when you feel nervous. Are you meeting a new group of people for the first time? You can just say “I’m feeling nervous meeting all of you for the first time because I want to make a good impression.” This will simultaneously do a lot of good things - first it will make you feel better because you are no longer nervous about trying to hide your nervousness. Sharing how you feel will make the others you are speaking to relate to you better, because everyone knows what it is like to be nervous when meeting a new group of people. And it will likely mean that these people will go out of their way to make you feel more included in the group since now they know that this will help you. A good phrase to remember is “autistically honest” - that is your goal. STOP trying to be smooth - just blurt out whatever is in your head at that moment without regard for context or social acceptability, and see what happens. You can always explain yourself later if people are confused.
Second, if you are authentic and honest some people won’t like you. People might not like you for literally any reason at all, from your hobbies to your job to your political views to your view of the world to what you named your dog as a kid. They might not like you because you have social anxiety, because you are trying to work on your social anxiety, or because you are less socially anxious than they are. To overcome your social anxiety, you must accept this - if someone doesn’t like you for who you are, then that just means the two of you are a bad match for each other at this time. Who knows, maybe in a week or a month or a year, one or both of you will change and you’ll be best friends. But even if that doesn’t happen, there are 7 or 8 billion other people in the world, and you can go see if they like you for who you really are. This, of course, doesn’t mean you shouldnt be trying to improve yourself - if very few people want to spend time with you because you never shower and smell bad, you shouldn’t continue not showering because “this is who I really am and other people just need to accept that”. But if you love playing Sim City: Skylines, then you shouldn’t feel the need to hide this part of yourself, and if others don’t like it then that’s fine - you don’t need them in your life.
It is also important to recognize that as you practice being authentically honest with people more and more, you will be more at ease doing so. You will naturally pick up on social cues easier and adapt them into your behavior without thinking or noticing. You will naturally gain new interests and opinions which align with the people you most connect with. You will find that you will say fewer embarrassing things, people will accept your flubs more supportively, and more people will like you. You do get better at socializing. But it isn’t something you consciously practice, other than by reminding yourself to authentically and honestly express yourself. If you try to consciously practice being liked, you are only indulging your social anxiety, and are not making real progress. So if you find that you are embarrassing yourself and getting rejected a lot, take a deep breath and remind yourself that you are on the right track - feeling this pain is part of the process of becoming a socially confident person.
So: go to therapy; get support from friends and family as much as you can; accept that you are going to embarrass yourself; accept that some people won’t like you.
Okay, now finally, let’s talk about where and how to push the boundaries of your social anxiety. I see there as being three social domains: family, community, and world.
World is the whole big wide world of strangers. In many ways, this is the easiest domain to push your social anxiety with, because you never have to meet any of these people again. A great hack here is travelling. Go to some other country and stay in the hostels. You are suddenly thrust into a situation where everyone wants to meet everyone including you. Literally all you have to do is show up and say yes when someone asks if you want to go somewhere or do something. This can also work going to festivals or conventions. Go to places where strangers want to meet each other and have fun - play life on easy mode! Go to these sorts of events and places regularly, and you’ll gradually find that it is easier and easier to introduce yourself to strangers and strike up a conversation. Then you can transfer this skill to, say, the grocery store or the park or your neighborhood street.
Next is community. This domain is where your social anxiety is related to your fear of damaging your reputation. For example, at work, in hobbyist clubs, in your neighborhood. Improving your “world” social anxiety can help a lot here, since once you know that you can meet people and strike up a conversation and make new friends, you have a much easier time taking risks in your community - after all, even if you literally burn down every community relationship you have, you know you can just move on to another community and start over, since you have the skill of introducing yourself and making friends, and you now have a lot of practice being authentically yourself around people where the stakes are low. The hack here is to try joining a bunch of different communities, and to try to be your authentic, honest self in each of them. Hobby groups are great for this - join a pickup soccer league, or a DnD group, or a cooking class. Anything where you are regularly interacting with the same group of people, where you can expect to get to know people over time. Your goal here is to overcome your anxiety to the point where you forget about it, and instead are completely engaged in being a good community member by helping the group. For example, if you are part of the pickup soccer group that meets in the park every Tuesday, you might wave to strangers who look at you curiously, and invite them to come play. Or if you are part of a DnD group, you might make pizza for everyone every week so that no one is hungry. By showing up consistently, regularly pushing yourself to be authentic and honest, and showing that you care about what you are doing, you will develop strong relationships with others in the group. As these relationships get stronger, you gain a support network of people who you feel care about you for you, and who you feel you can trust and rely on. This is what I would call your “family”.
So, finally, your family. I don’t necessarily mean blood relatives here, but rather, people with whom you have deep, lasting long term relationships. This is probably the hardest domain for you to tackle your social anxiety, since these are the people who know you best. You fear that if you are your authentic self around these people, that they will reject you, and that this rejection will be made with the full knowledge of who you are as a person. This is terrifying. But being able to speak authentically and honestly with the people closest to you is probably the most important thing you can do to be happy and successful in life. Note the catch 22 - at the beginning of this essay, I noted that one of the most important things you could do is recruit the people closest to you to support you in your struggle to overcome your social anxiety - but if you are terrified of talking to the people closest to you about your anxiety, then you can’t get their support, which you then can’t use it to overcome your anxiety about talking about your anxiety with them! Again, working in the broader community domain here is helpful, since if you have built up close relationships from your community before, you know you can do it again, and so it is easier to be vulnerable with the people who are close to you. In this domain, there is no real hack, other than to just do it. When you are spending time with a close friend or family member who you trust, just vomit out whatever is eating you up. Or fuck it, if that is hard, just send them a text about it. Give up on being perfect, just say whatever is on your mind and get the ball rolling. Then you can figure it out from there.
I should note that in all of these cases, you will be uncomfortable. Putting yourself out there and being vulnerable to others rejection is naturally terrifying. You will be terrified. But if you want to overcome your anxiety and more fully live your life, you need to recognize that growth happens when you face your fears and have the courage to act anyway.
That’s pretty much all I’ve got. Good luck!
We really aren’t. The difference is, the most successful of us are. And those are the ones you typically seem to meet overseas. Because the less successful of us can’t afford the trip.
Immersion therapy man. Go find a board game meetup, exercise meetup or sports meetup or something that puts you in a situation where you’re gonna be able to have casual conversations.
Loads of people just like you with social anxiety and who are introverted though in the US, and honestly any nation in the Americas… and probably the world.
Different parts of the USA have different expectations for small talk, but it is generally higher than I’ve seen for parts of Europe.
That said, being outgoing is a muscle for some people and, because of cultural differences, Americans tend to work out this muscle more than other countries.
I really think it’s a cultural thing. It would be like me(an American) saying “how can I be more Japanese?”
To put a finer point on it, Americans have grown up in a culture where self expression and social interaction is encouraged. So we are less afraid of approaching a stranger for casual conversation. Add to that the fact that we, culturally, have very low self awareness. All we know is what offends other Americans. We rarely have the social intelligence to modify our behavior to match our surroundings.
So while, yes, Germans may be more reserved by nature; don’t think that is a value judgement. If you want to be more outgoing do it in a German way. Americans are the way we are because we are Americans.
That said, if I could offer a suggestion to mitigate your social anxiety; I would suggest that other people don’t think about you and your behavior anywhere near as much as you think they do. Most people don’t give a shit. If you can’t think of anything to say but you want to start a conversation a compliment is always a winning strategy. But nothing is a substitute for genuine curiosity.
My mentality that has helped (before I worked in retail and dealt with hundreds if not thousands of people a day) was realizing that they will probably think about me just as much as I think about them in a few hours. Which is not at all.
There is a little nihilism of “nothing in this conversation matter” mixed with I learned I kind of like people. The vast majority of people are nice.
I’ll give you the chat code. Lots of eye contact, smile, and all then ask questions about them whenever the conversation dies. People, especially Americans generally love to talk about themselves.
Reading the first line of this post had me laughing
As an American, this is the simplest way I can say this.
Ignorance is bliss.
The less you know, the happier you are.
The happier you are, the more outgoing you become.
It’s a double edged sword.
A complete lack of self-awareness seems to help with appearing confident.
To achieve this, cocaine may be useful
Or a combination of sugar and caffeine mixed together.
You can always try to memorize some key phrases, like:
“did you see that ludicrous display last night?”
The thing about Arsenal is they always try to walk it in
“Americans” is a stupidly large and diverse population to say anything meaningful about. It’s extremely unlikely that that any population of humans of such a size doesn’t include some individuals who are more extreme than you, both more and less, for almost all traits.
You’re less likely to observe introverts than extroverts because one of those types will tend to do things in a way that are less likely to get your attention. You might well be experiencing observation/selection bias, possibly also reinforced by confirmation bias.
But whatever you think to be the “typical”, even if you could estimate it using some unbiased sampling method, it is often not a helpful way describe the whole population, or at best a reductive “average” that has limited useful applications.
TLDR - human populations are diverse. I don’t think any nation has ever effectively brainwashed or eugenicised their population into a single homogeneous group.
“Americans” is a stupidly large and diverse population to say anything meaningful about.
That’s true! OP should’ve specified US-americans, not all Americans.
(Am an introverted American 🫠)
I’m an outgoing introvert.
My partner is a shy extrovert.
outgoing introvert
You’re not socially awkward, you’re awkwardly social. 😉
Oh god don’t make the anxiety worse 😅
Is this parody ? (This is a genuine question btw)
The part that makes me think that:
Or maybe they’re just on a different level cause they’re from the best country in the world and are the best/most capable people in the world.
- there are plenty of shy or anxious people in the US too!
- as you say, being outgoing is a skill. 21 is an awkward and transitional age where you’re still finding out things about yourself. As you get more comfortable it can get easier to talk to other people too.
Are you sure? I’ve never seen anyone nearly as shy/socially awkward as me from the US.
Do you have any tips on how I can improve social skills?
I have been and still am shy/socially awkward and am from the US.
Social skills are something to practice. Approaching situations you may need to use your skills with a smile is usually a good start!
Where would you meet a shy or socially awkward American? Are you exploring the basements of random homes?
Fair point
If you haven’t met anyone like that from the US, it might be because they are shy and stayed home instead of meeting you! You have only dealt with a self-selected sample.
I think talking to other people just gets easier with practice, as you become more comfortable. You can also watch outgoing people and try to understand their moves. Finally, if your anxiety is due to hangups about specific things, it can help to talk to other people about those things in order to process the hangups and ease the anxiety.
I remember in university, there was this girl who I had seen around but hadn’t talked to. I don’t remember whether I knew her name already. One day she said to me “my name is [so-and-so]” and waited for me to say something back. I told her my own name and we had a good chat. I remember thinking “you can do that?”. I.e. she just told me her name in order to open a conversation, instead of asking any immediate question or looking for a lame pretext to talk to me. I expect that all non-shy people know how to do that, but to me it was news. I started doing the same thing when I met someone new, and it worked surprisingly well. There’s lots of other things like that, which you can observe and try. That’s what skills amount to.
That said, I’m not an extravert myself and have never been, and I don’t know many of those techniques. I just feel more ok about that now.
Hello, I’m an American and I’m probably as shy and sociall awkward as you lol.