I never said that the imperialists didn’t set the parameters here. Of course they funded a color revolution and of course Russia had to respond. But Putin chose the worst response he could have chosen and now everything’s worse for Russia than it was before.
You accuse me of living in a fantasy land, but the fact is that I’m looking at all of the pieces on the board and making a judgement. You on the other hand are ignoring all of the evidence that goes against the conclusion that you had when this entire thing started.
It’s not even like I’m disagreeing with you that much. We are probably 90-95% in agreement. I just look at the results Russia got for the choice that it made and see a tragic mistake.
But Putin chose the worst response he could have chosen and now everything’s worse for Russia than it was before.
That’s the problem with westerners filled to the brim with western exceptionalism. Plenty of comrades have tried to explain with evidence why your position fails to consider plenty of information that explain the material conditions leading to SMO but you chose to be arrogantly dismissive about it. Then, after rudely dismissing other comrades efforts, you spew nonstop nonsense to avoid facing the facts that people throughout this thread shared with you.
There is nothing but western arrogance from your responses.
It’s not even like I’m disagreeing with you that much. We are probably 90-95% in agreement. I just look at the results Russia got for the choice that it made and see a tragic mistake.
With what you kindly shown us throughout this thread, I doubt it. In fact, it is so easy to end up with positions like yours if we carefully ignore plenty of facts and historical context. We have seen plenty of westerners with exceptionalism do this all the time to criticize along with the fascists/liberals any resistance from the oppressed. From Palestine, Cuba, Rusia and China, people like you will arrogantly say “BUT I kNow A better wAy becAuSe I KnOw BeTter!” or “IT iS a FaiLuRe beCauSe thEy Didn’t Do IT mY pERfect wAy”.
What a disappointment. You should really work on that arrogance and shed away your exceptionalism.
Honestly my bad, I thought you were talking with someone I blocked or blocked me. Disregard what I said. They just appeared now in my logs because lemmy is fucked.
I never said that the imperialists didn’t set the parameters here. Of course they funded a color revolution and of course Russia had to respond. But Putin chose the worst response he could have chosen and now everything’s worse for Russia than it was before.
You accuse me of living in a fantasy land, but the fact is that I’m looking at all of the pieces on the board and making a judgement. You on the other hand are ignoring all of the evidence that goes against the conclusion that you had when this entire thing started.
It’s not even like I’m disagreeing with you that much. We are probably 90-95% in agreement. I just look at the results Russia got for the choice that it made and see a tragic mistake.
That’s the problem with westerners filled to the brim with western exceptionalism. Plenty of comrades have tried to explain with evidence why your position fails to consider plenty of information that explain the material conditions leading to SMO but you chose to be arrogantly dismissive about it. Then, after rudely dismissing other comrades efforts, you spew nonstop nonsense to avoid facing the facts that people throughout this thread shared with you.
There is nothing but western arrogance from your responses.
With what you kindly shown us throughout this thread, I doubt it. In fact, it is so easy to end up with positions like yours if we carefully ignore plenty of facts and historical context. We have seen plenty of westerners with exceptionalism do this all the time to criticize along with the fascists/liberals any resistance from the oppressed. From Palestine, Cuba, Rusia and China, people like you will arrogantly say “BUT I kNow A better wAy becAuSe I KnOw BeTter!” or “IT iS a FaiLuRe beCauSe thEy Didn’t Do IT mY pERfect wAy”.
What a disappointment. You should really work on that arrogance and shed away your exceptionalism.
Honestly my bad, I thought you were talking with someone I blocked or blocked me. Disregard what I said. They just appeared now in my logs because lemmy is fucked.