The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates “as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton’s camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be “elevated” to “leaders of the pack” and media outlets should be told to “take them seriously.”
She may not be playing now, but I feel it’s fair to point out that Hillary has played some stupid games - the American people reap the stupid prize.
The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates “as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.”
It’s important to note that this also applied to Democratic candidates. With the Republicans moving 100 miles to the Right, Democrats didn’t think anyone would notice them moving 20 miles to the Right. Clinton and the DNC are just as responsible for the Overton window shift as the Republicans are. If not more so. Had they embraced and supported people like Sanders, who would have absolutely demolished Trump, we wouldn’t be in this fucking mess.
Where did you get this information from?
ooo! a real zinger from an irrelevant loser? now THAT will solve some problems.
so sick of these stupid ‘dunks’ and social media circle jerks.
She and her husbandThe Clinton foundation recieved hundrends of millions from those same gulf countries much more than $400m accounting for inflationShe would know, she was bought by two dozen corporations
Hillary was targeted by at least as much politically motivated investigations into her affairs as Trump got, and they all ended up going nowhere, whereas Trump got convicted of 37 felonies. But that doesn’t seem to stop MAGAts rushing to post “crooked Hillary” and make suspiciously vaguely worded accusations every time the opportunity arises.
Notice how they never actually go into detail, because doing so would then require them to show evidence, so it’s only ever “she was bought by the corporations” and “she knows all about corruption”.
How about this for evidence? Taken from M1ch431 elsewhere in this thread
The original source is a verified, leaked email (dated April 23, 2015) from her 2016 campaign. The DNC plan was attached in the email and can be found here. The specific quote is from Salon.
Yeah, is this the information Julian Assange leaked. yeah fuck that guy too, I sure as hell ain’t voting for her and neither will you, so I don’t know why we’re arguing
Say what you want, her coronation as D candidate in 2015 over a much more popular Bernie Sanders led to a weak turnout by disenchanted D voters and Trump’s victory in 2016.
Whether she is a murderer/ felon or not, she can take her opinion and shove it
shut the fuck up Hillary you’re the reason he’s where he is
Hillary is just jealous she has to hide and do it slowly for years whereas Trump doesn’t give a single fuck and do it the obnoxious way for 2 times more money.
Hillary was targeted by at least as much politically motivated investigations into her affairs as Trump got, and they all ended up going nowhere, whereas Trump got convicted of 37 felonies. But that doesn’t seem to stop MAGAts rushing to post “crooked Hillary” and make suspiciously vaguely worded accusations every time the opportunity arises.
Notice how they never actually go into detail, because doing so would then require them to show evidence, so it’s only ever “she was bought by the corporations” and “she knows all about corruption”.
Out of everybody out there, Hillary “I got a half a million dollars from Goldman Sachs for spending a few hours giving a speech to some traders” Clinton is maybe not the best person to talk about this.
Then again, she does have the benefit of hands on experience on this.
Where did you get that information from?
I read it in, if I’m not mistaken The Guardian, way back when she was starting her campaign for President.
Others are quoting a broader pattern of receiving money for speeches from her, so those are probably more well informed than my vague recollection.
Looks at the Clinton foundation and the UAE
looks back at post
Huh. Funding dried up after she lost and wouldn’t have the political influence the funders thought they were buying.
Who’d have thought.
Did you look at the date of that article and think about it at all? You’re making my point for me.
You’re making my point for me.
Not every response here is an attack.
My apologies.
.ml never fail to take a criticism against Trump and whatabbout it towards a democrat
It’s been 9 years and centrists still can’t accept that no one likes HRC.
Centrists still believe Hillary was the most qualified and deserving person ever to run for president.
And there’s millions of them.
I fucking wish everyone hated Hilary Clinton. Then maybe she wouldn’t have walked into a NY Senate seat, much less the Dem Presidential nomination.
Centrists still believe Hillary was the most qualified and deserving person ever to run for president.
centrists just wanted her because she’s kissinger’s protege.
Woof. Ain’t that the fucking truth.
Libya, Cambodia… it’s all the fucking same to these ghouls.
Corruption is fucking corruption.
Calling whataboutism and not cleaning your own house is precisely what leads to loss of trust and directly led to the first term of Trump. EDIT: Along with explicitly and blatantly breaking their own rules to give the primary to Hillary (This isn’t conjecture or theory. They’ve explicitly admitted this in court and justified it by saying they aren’t a public entity but a private organization and can cheat if they want. Funny how they’re a public institution when they get free federal funds, but private when applying their own rules)
Democrats being feckless cowards and refusing to prosecute Trump for emoluments violations during the first term, and then failing to prosecute Trump for fucking insurrection on day one of Bidens Administration is what led to Trump term 2.
“Yeah well what about your party’s corruption” is actually a valid point for which you have fuck all as a defense
Wasn’t that proved to be outside of tenure?
So you think that having a slew of money coming to you while you are out of power right before an election you are expected to win means that that isn’t explicit corruption?
I have this really nice building for sale in New York that I have to sell for a really steep discount. Send me the money and we can meet up and I’ll sign it over to you. My loss is your gain.
Seriously, this is the stupidest attempt to justify corruption I’ve ever seen.
If only Qatar had delivered the plane to Trump on Jan 5th, 2025 there would have been no conflict of interest.
.ml never fail to take a criticism against Trump and whatabbout it towards a democrat
If they didn’t suck so much it wouldn’t be so valid of a criticism.
Get your own fuckin house together. Then we can talk.
not good that your guy is receiving $400 mil airplanes
Not my fucking guy. I don’t care about the fucking plane.
I want the democrats to stop pretending this is an episode of West Wing and play hardball. I want them to act like any of this matters. Because it actually matters.
What doesn’t do anything is finger wagging and gotya tweets. That kind of shit appeals to a insignificantly small demographic of Brunch Liberals and literally nobody else. They should be filibustering every single republican bill and denying every political appointment. Leadership should be stripping committee appointments and threatening primaries on turncoat dems. The entire party should as a singular unit be blocking everything they can. They should be aggressively promoting an alternative policy agenda with real tangible benefits for real people.
But they won’t do any of that. They’ll stand around cock-in-hand and wait for Schumer’s strategy of “give them everything they want” to payoff somehow (think trickledown) because the DNC is a corporation. They really aren’t bothered by all the disastrous shit Chump is doing because it benefits them too.
I don’t care about the fucking plane.
I just hope Boeing puts as much time and love and care into the custom 747 as they have done with the 737 Max and 777-X
I want the democrats to stop pretending this is an episode of West Wing and play hardball.
Dunno if you have watched it or not but I want them to start pretending it’s an episode of West Wing because the Dems in that went hard. I’m tired of the milquetoast responses and typical DNC fair but they also are playing politics and trying what they think will work.
Imagine coming to a text based forum and thinking not reading is a flex.
It’s an explicit attempt to troll
“I’m going to say something I know you won’t like and pretend not to listen to any response because my goal is to anger you.”
Frankly, if I was a mod of this forum, I’d ban Bigfoot@lemm.ee for trolling. They’re not even trying to hide that that is their goal rather than actual discussion.
It’s explicitly bad faith.
There are more eloquent ways to concede the argument.
Yeah, centrists don’t arrive at their political opinions by reading.
Try harder halfwit
We blame you for him. You understand that, right? In our eyes, he’s your guy.
Trying to make leftists feel bad about Trump doesn’t work. We believe (And have the fucking receipts) that it is the DNC’s (And the Clintons) corruption that is at fault that Trump is President. Again.
The Democratic Party died with Paul Wellstone.
You understand that, right? In our eyes, he’s your guy.
centrists prefer trump over anyone to their left.
Hillary personally did more to put Trump in office than every protest voter & third party voter combined
Because the democrats are also corrupt, fucking duh
Liberals in 2017, a mere eight years before realizing Trump Bad
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As sure as the turn of the worlds.
I’d leave Hillary alone. She’s a relic from a different era. Not really relevant these days.
All these pushes to keep Hillary relevant is so tone deaf. Waiting for the day some doofus tries to tell me why we can’t find better representation from the 350,000,000 people in the united states.
I don’t see her running for 2028… where are you even seeing this?
Sorry, did I say that?
Who’s pushing her? She posted on Bluesky and it’s being shared. There’s no conspiracy here.
Why aren’t they sharing my post from bluesky?
No one is trying to make her politically viable.
Just like during her campaign
AY-YO 🙏 self-five
Who are these people coming out in defense of Hilary in 2025?
The people who aren’t so ignorant to think she is trying for office in 2028.
I said nothing about running her for office.
That was the impression I got from what you wrote as well. Could you try saying it another way? Because it seems some of us aren’t getting it.
Why do people want to keep Hilary relevant?
Right. I think a lot of people wonder about that. But you seemed to be driving at a point. Specifically this bit:
Waiting for the day some doofus tries to tell me why we can’t find better representation from the 350,000,000 people in the united states.
What did you mean by this if you weren’t implying she was going to run again?
So we can’t just appreciate the meaning of the words because she’s someone you don’t like? She didn’t end her post with “and that’s why you should vote for me in 2028”, she’s simply stating a fact.
Tell me you didn’t vote for Kamala because she was a woman without telling me you didn’t vote for Kamala because she was a woman harder.
More because she is deeply corrupt and her accusing Trump of corruption, while true, is not aimed at reducing corruption. It is done to distract from her corruption.
They allow Fox News viewers in here? Fucking yuck. Go back to Reddit brown shirt.
And you’re apparently unaware of the Clinton foundation and the UAE.
Go read some history books.
Weak, try harder
Never gonna “appreciate” genocidal imperialists.
And no, gender doesn’t make it ok.
“I refuse to acknowledge the veracity of knowledge because it came out of someone I dislikes mouth” is some real mouth breather shit. Go back to Reddit loser.
Just because I don’t disagree with her on literally every issue doesn’t mean that her words worth my time either.
I’m sure JK Rowling and I agree on something, but I still want her to keep all of her opinions to herself, not just her problematic ones. Because she has a hard time telling the difference.
I don’t want to hear anything from a hypocrite.
Then die stupid.
No, u
Ah yes the sound logic of blaming everyone in a country for the actions of that country.
Applying that line of thinking to WWII Germany would mean the victims of the Holocaust were to blame for the holocaust. As that would be an offensive and moronic line if thinking I think it us safe to reject it in both cases.
You’re spreading Propaganda Meanwhile trump is sending to death camps,.
Yea, you aren’t just sexist. You’re all the bigotry that is trump now.
Lol, we’re back to “any criticism of Hillary Clinton is sexism”? I could’ve sworn it wasn’t 2016 anymore.
I mean, it’s not like centrists have changed for the better since then.
No moron, we’re at the “words coming out of the mouth of someone you dont like doesn’t automatically make them false”, did you pay attention in kindergarten?
350,000,000 people in the US, all saying things that can be appreciated.
Cool?
Sorry, I said words. I know how that might upset you.
Shhh, go away.
~oh kay im leaving~
Oh no, better stop being nakedly corrupt Trump or you might get sLaMmEd again
Ba’al criticizing Satan.
He’s allowed, they’re buddies in Roman propaganda campaign victims.
So what does that make you if you take Satan at their lying word on who is ba’al ?
Don’t forget who started the rumour.
I think you’re gonna have to explain the lore for those of us who haven’t read the trilogy
The trilogy? No there’s like 15 books in The Wheel of Time series
There is only one book in the wheel of time, its just so long you forget where you were in the slog and then start over.
Stats for this thread:
Comments about Hillary Clinton: 150
Comments about the president of the US receiving a bribe: 3
Comments about the president of the US receiving a bribe: 3
My brother in Christ, there are a thousand other threads about Trump being corrupt full of people lamenting Trump being corrupt.
But this post is like hearing Al Capone chastise Pablo Escobar over organized crime.
I feel like thats an insult to Al Capone, he ran a soup kitchen during the Depression.
He also handed out turkeys on Thanksgiving and is the reason we have expiration dates on milk bottles.
Aside from anecdotal evidence, Snopes was unable to find any proof to corroborate this claim. We know that most major food labeling requirements occurred in the decades following Capone’s 1947 death. However, aside from infant formula, there is no requirement to label expiration dates in the U.S. All such labeling is done so voluntarily by food manufacturers.
I didn’t know that about old scarface, I will be adding that to the list of fun facts right next to the fact that at least one Roman Emperor thought that he was becoming a god right between violently shitting himself to death.
When you share a little factoids like this, you don’t think check to see if they’re true, this sounds like it was designed to be shared and to be viral, but nothing of whether it was fucking true or not, Jesus, fucking Christ dude do better on the Internet
It’s almost as though no one likes her.
She had plenty of supporters, why do you think Bernie was shut out? It was just mostly the older and more centrist democrats, so not people on here.
She had plenty of supporters, why do you think Bernie was shut out?
Because her supporters run the party.
Your downvotes don’t change the facts, there was a decent core of supporters in the democratic party. You’re wrong when you say no one liked her. The fact that you don’t like that wing of the democratic party doesn’t change the fact that they’re around.
And there was plenty of people who supported her in the caucus, which was 100% ordinary people voting with their butt. It’s fine if you don’t like her, but don’t act like nobody supported her. You and the people you talk to aren’t the entire democratic party.
Nobody’s acting like “nobody supported her”. Plenty of people supported her, but she didn’t support them and so they should be called by their proper name:
fools
Three of the comments said or inferred that directly.
Plenty of billionaire supporters, yes
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Because the DNC admitted it in court.
Not plenty enough to keep that orange turd out of office the first time and putting us all in this mess.
It’s almost as though human beings have lost the ability to prioritize what actually matters
It’s almost as though no one wants to hear from her anymore except a bunch of people who are so unforgivably out of touch that they think she’s a good messenger.
It might be a good point, but she doesn’t deserve positive attention ever.
This is a post about her and her tweet. If you want to discuss the Air Force Bribe, I’m sure there are thousands of simultaneous discussions happening at various points on the internet. Perhaps even millions.
Sorry that this space isn’t dedicated to that, though.
What is your point? Lemmy is full of Trump criticism. It’s the norm. One thread shitting on Hillary won’t change that.
cause the post is ab her. I don’t think we should be propping up a CLINTON as opposition to trump
It’s her turn
Quick! She NEEDS to Run for President! There’s NO WAY it Can Fail!
-The DNC Probably!
Nah, she’s way too young, and not a man.
