• Basic Glitch@lemm.ee
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    8 days ago

    There’s a lot more reasons why we’re here than Hilary Clinton. If you can’t get over it we’re going to keep backsliding, again, and again, if we ever even make it out alive

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      7 days ago

      If the party is determined to keep making the same mistakes that they never addressed, they will continue losing. They seem fine with that.

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        8 days ago

        Got damn, I didn’t know that. I apologize and retract the part of my statement about Hilary, but do maintain we might not make it out of this alive

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          The same Wikileaks documents also show that Hillary and the DNC rigged the primary against Bernie (very briefly mentioned in the article).

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            7 days ago

            My favorite is the Bernie folks filed a lawsuit against the DNC for unfair practices against Bernie, and the court threw it out because as a private group the DNC could do whatever they want.

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              My favorite part is how the party still expects us to believe they run honest primaries after that.

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              7 days ago

              This isn’t what actually happened.

              What happened was worse.

              The DNC made the argument they didn’t need to follow their own rules because they were a private organization.

              To me that is far worse.

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          Not a one of us will make it out of here alive.

          That’s a fact of life in this realm we must eventually experience.

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      8 days ago

      She made Trump her pied piper because he was the only one she had a shot against and then she failed. Trump is quite literally Hillary Clinton’s fault. He would not have won 2016 if she hadn’t narcissistically demanded that it was her turn to be president.

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        7 days ago

        I wish parties would just die and that we can use a better voting system, but we need a path to get there.

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          7 days ago

          That path doesn’t involve the DNC. Look at how they treated David Hogg, of all people.

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            7 days ago

            Unless we have a left Tea Party. Just look at how successful the Tea Party was at forcibly taking over the RNC.

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              7 days ago

              The tea party had a lot of astroturfing. Again we look at how Sanders, AOC, and Hogg are treated to see how the structural power of the part will be turned against those that push back even a bit on their insular geriatric views. I see value in what you’re describing, I think I just see transforming the democratic party as more of a trap of energy than causing the needed change that people actually want.

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                7 days ago

                A third party with our FPTP voting system will cause an inevitable spoiler effect, which will lead to Trump winning his inevitable third term run (if he even bothers with an electoral process and doesn’t just instill himself as king).