• entwine413@lemm.ee
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    11 days ago

    Being involved in a foreign conflict is pretty unlikely to be a deciding factor.

    It’s taken this long because the US’s human rights violations haven’t been as bad as China’s, and we used to be good trading partners.

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      I suppose it’s up to your defintion of ‘deciding factor’ but to think the US’s invasions of sovereign countries resulting in hundreds of thousands of civilians deaths over the past few decades and support for ongoing genocide isn’t tiping the scales is misguided at best

      It’s taken this long because the US’s human rights violations haven’t been as bad as China’s

      source? I’ve never seen reliable evidence(outside of easily disproven Zenz’s inventions) that China’s rights abuses match those committed by the US in Guantaumo, Abu Ghraib etc in severity

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/29/abu-zubaydah-cia-torture-waterboarding-guantanamo

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        Oh shit, I didn’t see your instance. This is a pointless conversation.

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          So no source?

          Facts(UN investigations, photo and video evidence, I can provide sources on request) show that the US has committed far worse rights abuses than china(sexual assault at Abu Ghraib, extreme torture at both and murder and Guantanamo and numerous black-sites, extraordinary rendition etc)

          This proves my point about US cultural dominance distorting objective reality: despite facts showing the US committing far more severe human rights abuses you still believe China has committed worse because that is what media you consume portrays

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              No you didn’t, but you claimed that China has committed worse ones, I’m asking for evidence of that

              China has had organ harvesting concentration camps for a while now.

              source? and I don’t mean Falun gong cult members anecdotes laundered to western outlets through Adrian Zenz, actual hard evidence and investigation by neutral third parties or does that not exist?

              The US has children getting killed working in abattoirs, and has more workplaces suicides than China Bureau of Labour source and don’t install counter measures

              The Guardian: ‘It’s all preventable’: tackling America’s workplace suicide epidemic

              Yes the Taiwanese company Foxconn absolutely engaged in labour rights violations years ago before the Chinese government cracked down on them, hence why they are planning to move factories to India where the BJP government is less likely to enforce(even its weak in comparison) labour regulations

              https://freedium.cfd/https://medium.com/@cailiansavage1/inside-the-myth-of-chinas-suicide-nets-7ae4b9d07015

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                funny how libs talk about the foxconn suicide nets as a chinese thing, but then they back down when they learn its a taiwanese company 😂

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                Yes the Taiwanese company Foxconn absolutely engaged in labour rights violations years ago before the Chinese government cracked down on them, hence why they are planning to move factories to India where the BJP government is less likely to enforce(even its weak in comparison) labour regulations

                Ohh, first I recall hearing about the move to India, thanks for this.

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              Also, China has had organ harvesting concentration camps for a while now

              Lol. If we’re going to start throwing in baseless conspiracy theories, then Hillary Clinton eats babies

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          China is pretty bad, but I feel the US never gets called out for this, so he has a good point.

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      explain to me how Iraq invasion is a less worse human rights violation than whatever China has done?

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      It’s taken this long because the US’s human rights violations haven’t been as bad as China’s

      No, they’ve been worse: more people killed, more people imprisoned, more people abused, the US has been objectively worse.