It’s not a pipeline. 2018 and 2025 guys either had 2014 guy killed or they ruined his life and forced him into suicide.
never forget Aaron Swartz
he was murdered though, it wasn’t suicide
yes, different levels of maturity of the technology attract different profiles.
Gutenberg wanted to spread the word, Murdoch is in the hate business
Beware the AI slop Pipeline
I’m so sick of seeing this exact fucking face and facial expression on everything. please just use ms paint to shoddily squiggle a matchstick man, at least it will have personality.
RIP Aaron Swartz
And we’ll never know, selfishly speaking, the possible extent of his further contributions to society. Died at 26 after an incredible life already.
Besides his life, what else did they steal from us?
RIP Aaron
(Reposting my comment from last year)
Besides his life, what else did they steal from us?
Our lives. Working until you die is a common occurance, and especially now that Elon and Trump buttfucked Social Security, that will only be worse.
I hear child
slaverylabor is coming back, too in many red states.
Rich billionaire assholes are ruining every industry. It’s not just the tech sector.
Oh I am still at the 2014 phase.
We… used to have a term for people that advanced further: sell-outs.
Though I do very much prefer the recently popularized Cyberpunk lingo:
Fucking Corpo Scum.
Fuck corporats
It’s funny ever since Cyberpunk I can no longer pronunciate that word as it should be, instead it will always come out as corpo rats.
exactly as it should be pronounced 😁
The #corpolitical
“I want to change the world with this tech”
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“3 billion you say? The company is yours!”
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7 figures??? That’s not selling out, that’s just trying to get anything for a sinking ship if you sell for a million. Thats barely covering salary+expenses for 2-5 engineers depending on level and location.
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Yes, you’re talking about a personal “payout” thats probably only 2-3 years of a salary? That’s not much of a “payout” that’s just a nicer severance package. If you built a company that wasn’t about to go under, it’s not worth handing it to some asshole for practically nothing
OK well you can hold onto your company and turn down millions of dollars. For the rest of us normal people that’s a life-changing amount of money.
Jesus what kind of job do you have where millions of dollars, let’s even be conservative and say 1-2, is 2-3 year’s salary? Most people don’t make $300k+ a year and that’s like…the floor of my theoretical.
Software engineers at FAANG companies easily make that amount. And that’s the caliber of engineer that is typically making this type of exit.
You’re commenting as if your circumstances are the same as a tech bro founder’s, which seems to be incorrect.
You have a very myopic view of how these things can play out.
annuities my dude
1M is 2-3 yr salary??? Hook a brother up with these $300-500k/yr job leads d00d
Nah, precisely because we would cash out and settle for peaceful lives long before we’d become billionaires or even millionaires. It takes a certain type of person to begin earning millions and conclude “that’s not nearly enough, I need this times a thousand”. None of them are “good” people.
You don’t usually just “begin earning millions”, some businesses snowball to billion-dollar size quite quickly. Instagram had only a few dozen employees before being sold to Facebook for billions.
It happens, especially in tech, but I’d say it’s still the exception to the norm.
How many here are working for these tech bros or putting money on their companies?
We have a ton of developers on lemmy. It is entirely possible one of them will face this dilemma one day.
The company I work for isn’t amazing and our most recent CEO is human garbage. I’ve got medical stuff I had to pay for and need the funds to get out of country. Doing my best to be a net drain though by working as slowly and poorly as I can without being fired and I don’t buy into tech stock (or most any stock for that matter). Idk if what I’m doing is as ethical as it could be but I’m doing my best to not support unhinged tech bros despite being in tech
I’m taking the money and giving a fat chunk of it to programs and things that my government refuses to do anything about. I don’t give a fuck about shallow things like “selling out.”
So, you just want to make Trump richer, I see…
How does that make him richer? I’d use the money to help all of the folks he’s fucking over.
Trump owns the government, all the taxes you’re paying go into his pockets and pockets of his friends. Especially after DOGE went through the offices.
I can see that. I’d hope I could offset it by actually dumping my personal funds into working class programs and offer direct relief, but I know it’s a stupid thought exercise. The reality is that I’ve been in tech for years and have always actively avoided FAANG companies, and any and all paths that lead to corporate or management.
You’ll be better off dumping your cash into stock and shares.
Honestly selling the company is understandable. Getting out is normal.
It’s the ones that turn into sociopaths that bother me.
Why is pipeline being used for everything now? This is progression. Not pipeline.
Devil’s advocate here, it could be metaphorically, pipeline implies that it is an unavoidable sequence, rather than a progression, which it is.
edit, I agree with the below that it is more of a replacement
People like 2025 guy have never held thoughts like the other 2, they were always self serving cunts. They just kept a facade till they depended on others, but once they joined the rich fucks club, they dropped the facade.
Yay I love AI slop, keep feeeding me AI slop I fucking love it, I fucking love AI shit memes, they are definitivelt not obviously AI, and definitively not slop
How can you tell it’s AI generated? This is a real question because I legitimately have trouble recognizing AI that doesn’t have egregious issues like mangled fingers, and unfortunately I think recognizing AI content is going to be a survival skill in the next decade.
The fun thing is, old AI slop helps new AI slop look more believable. The main tells is line work and fonts. Chat GPT has a very distinct art style, with a lot of soft lines and generic fonts. It’s also extremely consistent. You could look up a dedicated sub for Chat GPT memes to get a feel for it. Then you’ll start to loathe it.
The artstyle. I have learned (through experencie, more than through actual research) what artstyles AI uses, but I can’t point out exactly what are their characteristics, they just give me a special type of uncanny valley vibes. In this one, the eyes are what stand out the most because I do remember more memes with that type of eyes, but I think I have also seen these face shapes in other AI memes.
Edit: The two people who hate me for not liking AI, make yourselves seen, I’m aware of your downvoting in comments!
Talk about a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You think you can identify AI because you only take into consideration the AI that you’re able to identify.
Every time you get tricked into thinking AI is an actual person, you don’t realize it so you don’t factor it in.
I swear, a lot of the AI hate these days really outs how ignorant people are about the world they live and how illogically they go about obtaining or verifying information.
You think you can identify AI because you only take into consideration the AI that you’re able to identify. Every time you get tricked into thinking AI is an actual person, you don’t realize it so you don’t factor it in.
Well, yeah, when I said I learned the artstyles that it uses, I meant the low quality, barely polished ones that most people use to make AI slop.
I swear, a lot of the AI hate these days really outs how ignorant people are about the world they live and how illogically they go about obtaining or verifying information.
The hate is because people will not only post slop, but it will be mass-produced slop because they have to spend ZERO time and effort on it so across different people the artstyle will be similar and, therefore, predictable.
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cool, i’ll delete my comment
I wonder how somebody can completely miss their own message like this. Or maybe somebody made an original image and then a techbro made this AI slop as a duplicate to spite them.
I need it. I’ll pay for it even!!
To be fair, you’ve been getting fed ‘human slop’ for years without having an issue. See: Marvel movies
Why complain when it’s a machine producing it instead?
Here’s my complaint about a machine producing it:
- Water Cost 1
- Water Cost 2, it has a nice Frutiger Aero image
- Water Cost 3
- Water Cost 4
- Systemic Risk to the Tech Industry
- Bad Business
You can also take a look at the articles of c/FuckAI if you want.
Except I have never watched Marvel movies. Talk about making asumptions.
It was just an example.
And still, what I have seen of Marvel movies (specially complaints about excessive CGI) are still more decent than the average AI meme. They just aren’t living up to the expectations Marvel had craved for itself with previous, good movies.
“People enjoy things I don’t like, therefore industrialized plagiarism and environmental homicide are ok”
Copyright and patent laws should die, so I don’t care about plagiarism.
It’s the same as saying “he stole my idea!” like a petulant child.
Great, so you’re an asshole who enjoys stealing. Go fuck yourself, we’re done talking. I also like how you didn’t even address the environmental damage, but I guess you also love destroying mother Earth as well.
I agree with Jomega.
Stealing is wrong. 200 billion dollar corporations like Disney worked very hard to change copyright laws. We need to respect these billion dollar corporations creating rules solely to benefit themselves.
Copyright laws exist to prevent confusion in the marketplace. What you want is to reform copyright laws, not abolish them.
It’s cute that you think you can reform copyright to suit your needs. Billion dollar corporations like Disney have more money than you and everyone you know. They will make the law whatever the fuck they want it to be.
Copyright laws exist to protect the entrenched interests of the rich. It should be abolished, but the useful idiots and the rich would never allow it.
🥱
Always funny seeing people get mad at me because I refuse to be ripped off.
Hardstuck 2014. I’m not changing
The suit infestation of tech
Yup, I very much doubt more than a handful of c-level people at the big tech companies went through these phases. The change is a result of money people who dont give a damn about technology getting a tighter and tighter grip over tech companies and pushing out the people who do care.
They’re called MBAs and they’re a cancer on society.
I’m going in the opposite direction.
I’m recognizing how much we’ve been herded like sheep just to make rich people richer, and I’m fighting back in the ways that I can.
Bad meme. Implies “information wants to be free” leads to “have you considered monetizing empathy?”
yeah, the “information wants to be free” and the other two are completely different people….
it’s more like, 3 different kinds of tech people:also, i’m going to call this “tech-bro” thing sexism… women are awesome in tech and the field can be very exclusionary… just because society has been keeping women out of tech, doesn’t mean you can just assume they’re all bros….
also check out unixsocks… they’re definitely not bros….
“Techbro” is a specific name for a subsection of the tech population who have become complete douche canoes (much like the middle and right people in the image). The crypto/AI/whatever people. These people are mostly male.
All kinds of awesome people work in tech, but they are not considered “tech bro”, just cool tech people.
“information wants to be free” is a hacker expression… it deeply offends me to see that attached to tech bro.
and women are fully capable of being douche canoes, as well as being strong positive or negative forces in tech. You’re mostly seeing males in this role BECAUSE of sexism… acting like they’re just naturally mostly male is reinforcing that.
there is a huge problem with sexism in tech.Oh yeah, the “information wants to be free” thing shouldn’t be attached to techbros. Totally agreed. I think the meme is meant to show a devolution from a tech activist into techbro, but obviously not everyone followed that pipeline. I used to be in the “information wants to be free” and privacy-focused camp 10 years ago and I still am. There will be plenty of us.
it’s not a pipeline though, hacktavists don’t become tech bros, they fight them.
I personally haven’t seen that either, but that’s what the meme says. Not necessarily that I think happens often
pipeline means a thing
I could be wrong, but I think “tech-bro” as a term isn’t meant to apply to everyone in tech. It’s mean to capture the intersection of tech people and “bros” – the kind of guy who likes football or something.
Of course that’s just what it’s meant to be; if people use it for all men in tech then yeah it just becomes a sexist and luddite terminology.
I’ve heard that “argument” about a lot of slurs. Do you think any non-tech person is involved or interested enough to make any difference between the good tech-males and the bad tech-bros? Besides, why would there be a problem with a guy who likes football?
BTW. Men are not the victims of that slur. The subtext is that good girls don’t do tech. Or if they do, they at least don’t make waves. They don’t invent things, become rich tech CEOs, or anything else that someone might find objectionable. They can become artists and make pretty things, or authors and write about their feelings; that sort of thing. You know, girl stuff.
Men
girls
Adult girls are called women.
“Good girl” is an idiomatic expression. Often, as in my comment, it refers to an abstract concept of femininity and not to adult women or any person at all.
It infantalizes those qualities, so you are not so ironically being sexist while trying to speak against sexism.
I did not say that men are the victim, though I don’t dispute it either. I said it’s sexist. I also didn’t say it was a slur.
Anyway, I hear my friends in tech use the term a lot. They aren’t referring to white-hat hackers, they’re generally referring to vapid entrepreneurs.
precisely
it was originally the intersection of Joe Rogan, raw meat enema, bro world with tech… but as the term spread, it’s now just a derogatory term for anyone into technology….
but the other person who responded to you put it better….
Tech-Bro is an almost exclusively male subsection of people in Tech, who think that A. Tech solves everything B. As people doing Tech, they know everything C. Any non-tech attempt at solving something is bad.
This isn’t a sexist term.
I disagree. It’s not “one leads to the other,” it’s that people change. Far too often people start out, not just in tech, bucking the system in some way. Anti-authority, pro-privacy, anti-centralized control, etc.
But when the server costs start mounting for a service that gets popular and money needs to come in, people change. Now you need to monetize via ads or whatever, now you get attacked, you circle the wagons, get investors, and it’s all downhill from there.
Digg and Reddit are big examples, Google could arguably be a similar case, it happens in music too where a band “sells out”, like Metallica for example. An originally anti-authority metal band starts lawsuits and banning fans to protect profits.
Sure there are plenty of situations where services remain open and free (for now), like wikipedia, linux distros, etc. but we aren’t always that lucky.
Sure there are plenty of situations where services remain open and free (for now), like wikipedia, linux distros, etc. but we aren’t always that lucky.
It’s got absolutely fuck all to do with “luck.” It has everything to do with adoption.
Most people won’t adopt things that aren’t sufficiently pretty. They’re more than happy being data whores for social media pimps because it’s so fun.
You may have missed the word “pipeline.” I’m not denying people change, but this meme is suggesting that good intentions are the first step toward bad intentions.
Nah.
I mean, if they became rich, maybe. Certainly contrast Stanford-era Brin with modern Google, sure.
But um… Nah.
I am still stuck in “2014”, which is where I was back in 1995.
But then again, I never became obscenely wealthy by grossly parasitizing off of the labour of other people, so I never had the chance to devolve and become corrupted by capitalism.
