Ok so I’ve barely played this game so far, I’m only up to the Blighted Village. But I heard this guy is an annoying as fuck Redditor but so far he’s just been a lovable dork. Does he get worse or something?
Honestly having Moss from The IT Crowd in my party is a breath of fresh air considering the other party members consist of an angry green fascist, a goblin racist, a foppish dandy who immediately tried to cut my throat, and someone called Shadow Fart.
I heard he was more obnoxious before patches. Do tell.
Edit: Oh and Wyll is there too I guess. I unironically forgot he existed lmao
I’m around the same point in BG3 right now and was feeling the exact same way about Gale and most of the companions. Most of them are awful and I don’t understand the hate Gale gets!
We have fascist frog, christofascist, fascist with goblin characteristics, and the creep who assaults you in your sleep, and the most hated one is the guy that thinks you’re pretty cool?
I still haven’t met Halsin, Jaheira, or Minsc but so far my list of “not-shitty-companions” is Karlach, Wyll, Gale, [Large gap], Astarion, Shadowheart, Minthara, Laezel.
If Lae’zel has haters I’m among them, if she has one hater it’s me, if she has no haters I’m dead.
I have no idea why Lae’zel has so much fans, she a supremacist. I dunno, people are saying these characters have layers so maybe she gets better.
Yeah she has a redemption arc. It takes a while and doesn’t really make up for her, but I do see why people could warm up to her because of it tbh.
Laezel gets much better if you push her in the right direction throughout the story.
I can fix her. And also, somehow, we flirted by fighting each other, and she had a powerful spell in her inventory and just dropped kicked my ass. And:
If you don’t get why people find Gale annoying you might be the Gale of your group
I am a huge annoying dweebus so that is a distinct possibility
Also I like eating artifacts
I’ve never played the game and don’t know who this is, but assume it is because they are all envious of his magnificent head of hair.
He kept wanting to eat my magic items. Those are MY magic items, Gale, they’re supposed to go in the team stash forever and never get used
ok good I don’t need to comment on this thread because this is exactly why I quickly soured on Gale. Especially the way he reacted when I told him “no treat.”
His tummy gets full eventually
So… spoiler-free answer…
I’m a big fan of the setting.
I was, at first, super into Gale! I was playing a rogue elf so he didn’t seem condescending. We were getting along fine. Then he told me about his past.
I went from Gale fan to hell fuckin no so goddamned fast! It was infuriating because none of my friends had any experience with the setting, so it took them longer to see the… toxic mentality that put him in the position he’s in. I almost threw my controller! So glad we hadn’t been screwing at that point or I would have wanted to kill him! I remember launching into a rant where I said that Gale was either the most arrogant fucking man alive, or he was by far and away the dumbest, and trying to explain just what it would mean if he could do what he was trying to do…
I’m still mad about it! You did what? What a fucking asshole! And to pretend that any of that was for anything beyond greed, beyond sheer arrogance! He had everything but it wasn’t enough! Godforfuckingbid this man just accept his place!
Massive green flag from the fiance though. He was playing it behind me, and without any knowledge of the universe, he got to the same scene and said he also hated Gale was too greedy to be happy.
…is the spoiler-free version of that. (That situation) wasn’t good enough? He had to risk the (positive situation) for something so childish and selfish?
Correct answer. Good litmus test.
He seems affable and then you learn that he’s a scumbag on a cosmic scale! I honestly wish there were more redeeming qualities to him
He was groomed. So that’s something.
That certainly is a component of it I admit I hadn’t really thought of
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The power disparity in the relationship between the god of magic and a mortal wizard/devotee does raise a lot of ethical questions. Definitely not a good look for Mystra.
I still am skeeved out by his emotional manipulation tactics and willingness to drag you and potentially the entire world down with him.
He’s selfish, yes. But a lot of that is because of his overconfidence which is just him masking his insecurities. Imo, he’d be a lot better if he was a girl because of a lot of gendered baggage to how his emotions get read.
Sounds like I’ll probably end up hating him too lol
Before the patches, Gale’s romance meter would fill up really really fast and off of non-flirty, friendly interactions. “Sure Gale, I’d like to hear more about magic some time but I’m busy now” would basically be enough for him to become aggressively interested in you, fuelling a lot of Nice Guy type jokes about him
fucking hell, this explains it
i swear i had three conversations with him before he was like “please join me down by the river, i need to express my feelings to you”.
my man, you told me you like magic and that you need to eat enchanted swords to live, i don’t even bring you on quests - simmer downI feel like this still happens, I started my playthrough in the patch before last and him telling me he needed someone to talk to translated into him wanted to slam like immediately.
Honestly I was sorely disappointed by the social elements of the game in general - probably because of all the hype the game got. Very often I wasn’t able to give the kind of answer I felt I wanted to in a given situation, and in general I wasn’t able to play my character with the personality I had in mind much at all.
I feel like this is a substantial amount of video game romance writing, which leads me to go “wait, what? romance begins now?” (there are some better written ones, but I feel like this is regular for many cRPGs)
(the romances in Shadowrun: Calfree In Chains were ok, though rather linear)
nice, I didn’t know about these extra campaigns for Shadowrun, need to try them sometime
Honestly even early BG3 had well done romance, just Gale in particular was a horndog
I never really understood all the Gale hate, the entire cast is incredibly horny i dont get it
karlachs whole thing is literally being so pent up shes about to burst
the first comment shadowheart makes about karlach is “she looks like she could pick me up and carry me around”
the fist comment shadowheart makes about karlach is “she looks like she could pick me up and carry me around”
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I heard he was more obnoxious before patches. Do tell.
Everyone was hornier before patches, but especially him
Good god, you mean it was even more horny?
There was something where everyone’s first romance scene was super easy to trigger. His was kinda obnoxious, and felt like him mansplaining magic to the PC if I remember right.
Oh my god, him mansplaining the Weave to my sorceress was fucking infuriating. I live and breathe magic, my guy, I do not need you to lead me in a guided meditation or whatever it is we’re doing!
And then when you find out his backstory it sounds like exactly the kind of thing I would veto if he were a PC in my game. You’re level 1, dude!
They were definitely all(?) high level characters before the brainworm
will
Will could summon greater demons in his backstory, meaning he was lv11 at minimum.
karlach
Karlach cannot have survived as soldier in hell for decades and not leveled up at all, that’s also impossible. Devils and demons are strong
shart
Shart is supposed to be a sharran elite, and all the mobs in the temple are like level 5 at minimum. She was definitely way higher, at least lv 9.
So will being a high level wizard in his backstory is pretty believable. Almost none of these characters work as level 1 characters. Maybe astarion or laezel? Idk
Various spoilers.
Yeah, it’s pretty silly. His backstory was probably near or at Epic level
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if he genuinely thought he could fuck around with Karsus’ Folly - that’s one of the few things that would have your peer superwizards (who mostly dislike each other) joining forces to put a stop to.
I think pretty much all the character’s backgrounds were a poor choice on their part. You don’t need a shred of backstory upfront if the writing is up to snuff, and having theirs be so high-level kinda makes everything happening pretty low stakes - the intro cinematic with the spelljammer vs dragonriders is basically a level 20 action sequence, and then you’re slogging through mud and goblins hearing about how cool everyone else used to be, having just seen how cool the stuff you don’t get to do is.
Plus Elminster could genuinely solve all of it in about three hours, so he shouldn’t have even been there to say:
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“So I hear you’re an unstable antimagical nuclear weapon now Gale?”.
Then teleport away without doing anything about it.
But eh, the story and stakes are all over the place.
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It isn’t even actually mind flayers! It’s just mid-level clerics of the three gods who job harder than Skeletor, with a plan so intensely stupid - fucking around with Illithid - that it can only function via the power of a saturday morning cartoon villain’s mcguffin.
It’s… like the Battle Angel Alita movie. It likes the source material too much, so it crams in too many elements from much later and weakens itself in the process. Or perhaps the poison of escalation.
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It isn’t just hints of the mind flayer space empire, it’s a netherese superweapon, no wait, it’s also the Dead Three! The city you’ll reach in thirty hours will be destroyed - and the entire world hangs in the balance! Only your level 12 characters can save the universe!
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And then when you find out his backstory it sounds like exactly the kind of thing I would veto if he were a PC in my game. You’re level 1, dude!
I always assumed the level 1 bit was a result of the
, but you’re right, the redditor wizard is probably the biggest stretch of that.spoiler
Keeping his hand as a souvenir is funny during an evil Dark Urge playthrough.
Yeah from what people were saying he acted like a nice guy™ prior to patches? That would make me hate him too. If he’s still like that I might yeet him off a cliff.
There was also a large straight cis-male gamer audience that does not understand that rejecting someone’s romantic advances (and/or did not understand that he was making romantic advances) is not a mean/rude thing to do, leading to situations like this hilarious comic.
I think specifically feeding him magic items was quickly filling up his “NPC likes you” meter now that I think of it
I’ve only fed him one thing and haven’t gotten anything that hints at starting a romance path yet. I don’t plan on romancing any characters so that’s fine with me lol.
There was also a bug where he’d just… Say lines that were meant for characters romancing him abruptly.
On my first playthrough it got so bad I couldn’t do his actual quest because he kept talking about how much he loved me
Ok I take it back that sounds like the worst thing ever lmao
i dunno, i fed him an enchanted stick or something and then he wanted to spoon and develop a meaningful long term love or some shit
this was like 3 hours in, i completely ADHD’d out on this game even though I know it’s elite. I think I also fucked the vampire but he didn’t turn me and lae’zel was into me.
also, everyone seems to like some evil purple woman but she was trying to kill a bunch of people with goblins? apparently she can be in your party but i literally pushed her down the convenient chasm into the earth she was standing next to
also the druid is absolute daddy mode and i’m sad i never got around to fucking him
game was horny
WHY IS THIS GAME SO HORNY I JUST WANT TO GO ON A WHIMSICAL D&D ADVENTURE
You can do that but what if you and muscle mommy smooched under the moonlit sky also?
this was like 3 hours in, i completely ADHD’d out on this game even though I know it’s elite
Yeah I haven’t gotten it for this reason. All of my friends play it and it sounds great, but I simply don’t sit down and play story mode games anymore. I know if I bought it I’d have a great time playing one night and never touch it.
I’ve had to hard-force myself to focus on it, I’ll play it for a couple hours after my spouse falls asleep, headphones in with my phone across the room so nothing will distract me
Lmao
He’s fine. People on the internet are addicted to rageahol.
His backstory does make him out to be kind of a jerk, but I don’t think you learn the details until Act 2 or maybe 3.
He’s both incredibly horny and also incredibly up his own ass
The bit where
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You can manupulate the moon lantern ritual circle and he’s like “oh you better leave it to an expert”
and if you dare to try it without him he gets pissy at you and basically says you’re not competent enough for it to have been anything other than luck. I actually hated the little shit after that. My wizard PC has better stats than you, dumbass cracker magician!Then you learn he got into a toxic relationship with the goddess of magic where he of course knows better than literal gods and gets himself super cursed with a magic WMD that could kill half a continent - and he still hasn’t learned his lesson and tries to guilt and emotionally manipulate the PC into letting him control the artifact of doom macguffin! I hate Gale lmao
Oh that explains it, I haven’t got to that part yet lol
I liked him at first too, then I learned more about his backstory & personality 🫤
Oh no I’m not looking forward to that then. No spoilers please tho
Shadow Fart
please, it’s Shart.
But also that’s my goth wife and I will have satisfaction, owlShe’s cool. She seems nice once she stops trying to stir shit like some kind of catty teen.
Also she approves when you are nice to animals so she must be good.
Hm, very well. I shall let this slight go, this time. Watch yourself, your wings and farty ways wont protect you forever.rolls for fart skill check
Critical failure
i remember taking the ability to talk to animals and Shart being like “yes, that was a very nice cat” lmao
considering the other party members consist of an angry green fascist, a goblin racist
named Tav
Gottem
Gale is the cracker normie
He’s just some guy lmao
