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This post is “FYI only” for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.
I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the “adult human female” dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and “civil disagreement” on the validity of trans folk.
I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to “sort it out through discussion and voting”. However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little “sorting out” has occurred. The posts remain in place.
At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.
I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.
Just normal terf Island things.
The feddit admins have responded in this post:
https://piefed.social/post/691666
Admin Responses
flamingo-scant@feddit.uk 17 hours ago
To be clear, there were no posts, this is about two comments by one of our users, both of which I personally pushed back on. We’re still discussing what to do, but consensus takes time.
ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.uk 19 hours ago
Address the comments or address the defederation?
I was the Admin who was contacted by Ada and that is a mischaracterisation of what I said. Our rules still stand that we won’t allow transphobia.
Unfortunately, as the ruling on the interpretation of the law has recently changed, we are going to have to figure out how we approach this and that is going to require a consensus amongst the Admins, and an agreement on our wording going forward.
This is going to take a bit for us to work out (although not too long, we’re getting there, I have been active on Lemmy but I don’t call the shots, and we need input from all Admins) and if, in the meantime, LBZ feel we aren’t moving fast enough and they need to defederate from us then that is obviously their right.
flamingo-scant@feddit.uk 14 hours ago
The issue is this rule in c/unitedkingdom and c/uk_politics: Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
We’ve never had anything like the current wave of transphobia, not even those pogroms back in July, so we’ve never had to work out the exact line between ‘disappointing’ and ‘horrible’. Working out that line needs discussion with all the admins, which unfortunately takes time. Regardless of what the government says or does, transphobia is not and will never be allowed here.
I’ve watched some UK TV programs so I consider myself on expert on British culture and I can’t figure out why they are so shitty about this issue in particular, even compared to Burgerland.
I have not done a lot of investigation, any comrade with better knowledge is welcome to correct me.
It’s my understanding the problem is the different waves of feminism. Second wave feminism took hold in the UK and informed a lot of the rhetoric and social understanding of gender, they tended to be more focused on biologic sex markers and tend toward anti-trans positions. UK women’s groups and feminist organizations still tend toward this second wave. Whereas in the US It was third or fourth wave feminists that really took hold on campuses and was the base of a lot of the political groups.
Shaun has a video on transphobia in the UK that might be enlightening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91_5OOmK1TQ
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
the UK never had a bourgeois revolution or grappled with their toppling as world hegemon and their politics is still firmly stuck in 100 year old colonial mindset
I’m gonna guess colonialist mindset cause what else would it be