• iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    that is how you get goons. now she knows she is fucked if Trump goes and she will do whatever it takes to make sure he doesn’t

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      11 hours ago

      Trump gave her a pardon, how is she fucked if he goes away?

      Now looking at her past she’s done plenty of other terrible things, and after this she’ll likely continue to do terrible things. So it won’t be long until she needs another pardon for a new crime (or the uncovering of an existing crime).

      She was also already a Trump loyalist.

      So this is less a “bribe” and more a “reward”.

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        11 hours ago

        my assumption is that if Trump ever goes he will be going down with a lot of trouble and people will try to undo his damages and make an example from those who benefited from his abuse of powers such as clearly illegal pardons.

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            9 hours ago

            perhaps illegal was not the correct word. let’s say on the very unethical side of an ethical scale of pardons (president having pardon powers is already starting with a non zero unethical score for me)

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          10 hours ago

          That’s my point, unless he is aware of additional crimes Trump has nothing on this woman. She was convicted of a crime, it happened, that doesn’t go away. What goes away is the punishment.

          Additionally the pardon power is absolute, even Trump knows that as he’s been bitching about being unable to do anything after Biden preemptively pardoned a handful of people.

          Now if you could uncover some type of quid pro quo for this pardon that would be a new crime and you could get both of them on that (possibly). Although I’m think technically Trump could sell pardons and that would be legal. It would be abhorrent. It would be unethical. But it would legal. (Although hopefully he would be impeached, but that’s also a separate process.)

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            9 hours ago

            It is not that Trump has her directly under her control by some sort of blackmail. It is more like situational control. She has benefited from the Trump presidency to the point that her gross misconducts were pardoned. That now ties her sort of organically to Trump and if newcomers want to undo everything Trump has done and take some sort of revenge, they will pay extra attention to dig extra dirt that such people have (which this woman most definitely has).

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              7 hours ago

              I do agree it makes a very public attachment to Trump. However she was already nicknamed “Lady Trump” so she was already pretty attached.

              Either way we agree that the pardon is a terrible act and the crime, which should not have been pardoned, was also a terrible act.