From the first world war to the invasion of Iraq, left-wing soldiers have questioned our involvement in wars. Yet we rarely hear these dissenting veteran’s voices.

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    17 hours ago

    A pacifist will always supoort self defence, like the Palestinians in Gaza

    October 7 was not self defense.

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      12 hours ago

      It was an act of resistance within decades of besiegement and massacres by settlers. The situation was not peaceful beforehand, we cannot isolate that event and pretend it was sudden and unexpected. It’s fine to be critical of how it fought, but it was certainly an act of desperate national self defense against colonial settlement.

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        9 hours ago

        Yes we can isolate it. And it was “peaceful” in Gaza (not in WB). All Jewish settlers were forced out of Gaza by Israel decades earlier.

        Israel isn’t going anywhere despite the Hamas “From the river to the sea…” delusion.

        Palestinians aren’t going anywhere either but now we have extreme right wingers in Israel adopting a similar catchphrase thanks to Oct 7. Hamas played into the hands of the Likud fascists.

        Neither population is vacating the Levant. That is the starting point for any resolution. Not 1967 or 1945 or 885BCE.