Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the "oligarchy," arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans.
Ah , see, that take is rationalizing. She’s a former CIA torturer who worked under Bush.
First she was in the DA not DO at the CIA so she factually was not a torturer as analysts weren’t doing torture rather the spies were. Secondly every single person in the executive branch works for whomever is POTUS so it is not a surprising claim to say she worked under POTUS at the CIA.
Edit: The directorate of analysis is where she worked. If the CIA directly hired torturers that worked for the CIA they would be in the directorate of operations. That being said the CIA contracts out torture through foreign intelligence, criminal groups, military/paramilitaries, or police when they have been found to do so. This is not an endorsement of torture but rather an explanation of how the CIA is divided and which side hires torturers, assassins and criminals.
Right now anyone who is anti-fascist needs to be on the same team. Anyone saying we should reject anyone who is anti-fascist because they do not cling to a specific ideology are a larger part of any problem we are facing than she is.
Neoliberalism’s erosion of the welfare state and GWB’s brutal and bumbling advancement of American Oligarchy via the War on Terror are why we are currently living under outright fascism. Those who caused this current crisis must be cast out as arsonists who lit the current inferno
Anti-fascists must be united and must avoid factionalism. She is not an anti-fascist, which is why she supports our ruling class of oligarchs. Because she is not a part of our movement, but is a deceiver who literally works for the spies of the American Oligarchs, we must not accept her as on “our” side
Fascism is the open dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, and most imperialist elements of finance capital, used as a tool by the ownership class to crush the working class and revolutionary movements when their rule can no longer be maintained through “normal” parliamentary democracy. It is capitalism in decay and crisis, resorting to extreme violence, nationalism, and repression to preserve class dominance.
The CIA and broader U.S. intelligence apparatus from George W. Bush to today function as instruments of the ownership class, increasingly showing fascistic tendencies as capitalism faces deeper internal crises. After 9/11, intelligence agencies expanded mass surveillance, covert operations, and political manipulation — not just abroad but domestically — to suppress dissent, manage working-class unrest, and defend imperialist interests. Under both Republican and Democratic administrations, the intelligence state has blurred the line between “security” and repression, normalizing extraordinary executive powers, criminalizing protest, and targeting leftist, anti-imperialist, and labor movements — all while intensifying nationalist narratives to justify it.
Well, one line of my comment was about her being part of the CIA torture apparatus. The rest detailed how she, personally and with the help of the Democratic Party, did fascist things like subvert the will of the people by preventing real political choice.
This isn’t a situation where we can pick the lesser of two evils and hold our nose. I’m outright saying she’s part of the problem — so fuck her and her insistence that we focus on only the kings they want us to be concerned about. And fuck her desire to step away from our moral duty to protect others from discrimination.
Cool, buddy purity tests are absolutely the smartest way to confront actual fascists which doesn’t include her.
The only one playing word games is the person misusing the term fascist. She isn’ta fascist and Sanders lost fair and square both times. America is not a progressive nation
First she was in the DA not DO at the CIA so she factually was not a torturer as analysts weren’t doing torture rather the spies were. Secondly every single person in the executive branch works for whomever is POTUS so it is not a surprising claim to say she worked under POTUS at the CIA.
Edit: The directorate of analysis is where she worked. If the CIA directly hired torturers that worked for the CIA they would be in the directorate of operations. That being said the CIA contracts out torture through foreign intelligence, criminal groups, military/paramilitaries, or police when they have been found to do so. This is not an endorsement of torture but rather an explanation of how the CIA is divided and which side hires torturers, assassins and criminals.
Your defense of her is that she chose to work for torturers? Why would anyone work for torturers?
Im not defending her Im correcting your error. A simple look at her background would make it clear your claim was wrong.
1- I’m not who made the claim
2- How is this distinction a material difference? If she worked for torturers then she is unsupportable
Im sorry for my error and my hypocrisy.
Right now anyone who is anti-fascist needs to be on the same team. Anyone saying we should reject anyone who is anti-fascist because they do not cling to a specific ideology are a larger part of any problem we are facing than she is.
She is a fascist. She worked for torturers
Neoliberalism’s erosion of the welfare state and GWB’s brutal and bumbling advancement of American Oligarchy via the War on Terror are why we are currently living under outright fascism. Those who caused this current crisis must be cast out as arsonists who lit the current inferno
Anti-fascists must be united and must avoid factionalism. She is not an anti-fascist, which is why she supports our ruling class of oligarchs. Because she is not a part of our movement, but is a deceiver who literally works for the spies of the American Oligarchs, we must not accept her as on “our” side
Stop using words when you clearly do not know what they mean.
Fascism is the open dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, and most imperialist elements of finance capital, used as a tool by the ownership class to crush the working class and revolutionary movements when their rule can no longer be maintained through “normal” parliamentary democracy. It is capitalism in decay and crisis, resorting to extreme violence, nationalism, and repression to preserve class dominance.
The CIA and broader U.S. intelligence apparatus from George W. Bush to today function as instruments of the ownership class, increasingly showing fascistic tendencies as capitalism faces deeper internal crises. After 9/11, intelligence agencies expanded mass surveillance, covert operations, and political manipulation — not just abroad but domestically — to suppress dissent, manage working-class unrest, and defend imperialist interests. Under both Republican and Democratic administrations, the intelligence state has blurred the line between “security” and repression, normalizing extraordinary executive powers, criminalizing protest, and targeting leftist, anti-imperialist, and labor movements — all while intensifying nationalist narratives to justify it.
I know a guy who is in analysis. He’s an expert in kitchen appliances. What’s he doing to create or enforce your notion of fascism?
Well, one line of my comment was about her being part of the CIA torture apparatus. The rest detailed how she, personally and with the help of the Democratic Party, did fascist things like subvert the will of the people by preventing real political choice.
This isn’t a situation where we can pick the lesser of two evils and hold our nose. I’m outright saying she’s part of the problem — so fuck her and her insistence that we focus on only the kings they want us to be concerned about. And fuck her desire to step away from our moral duty to protect others from discrimination.
I will not abandon my principles for word games.
Cool, buddy purity tests are absolutely the smartest way to confront actual fascists which doesn’t include her.
The only one playing word games is the person misusing the term fascist. She isn’ta fascist and Sanders lost fair and square both times. America is not a progressive nation
We could be. You’re happy as long as fascism wears a blue necktie.