• GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works
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    We had a pretty close call there. For a while, the president was pushing hard for a federal online censorship program that got caught lying as soon as it was formed, and also trying to get votes counted with no voter ID unlike every single other democratic country. The administration was also paying bail for protestors who burned down random businesses and pushing for prosecution of people who acted in self defense. Luckily we didn’t re-elect him and his handlers after that.

  • SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml
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    19 hours ago

    If America saw what America was doing to America, then America would invade America to liberate America.

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        America has never cared about “democracy”.

        The election system makes that blatantly obvious. First-past-the-post voting and a two party system is pretty anti-democratic in and of itself, and was derided by George Washington as a source for some of the great evils of history.

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          2 parties is the inevitable outcome of FPTP, there’s no legalistic enforcement of 2 parties, it’s simply the most viable strategy in this voting system. They very quickly became the biggest and out-competed all the others* (see how the Whigs fell, the conservative Democrats split in north and south and the progressive Republicans rose to prominence) Washington was right to deride the 2 party system but the framers were building an electoral system long before we had some extremely serious mathematics done about making voting systems more fair, and also proving that no voting system can be perfectly fair and satisfy all fairness criteria.

          And they also weren’t one homogeneous group either, they all wanted different things and came to compromise about how to go about doing it, some wanted a centralized army to stand up to outside forces, others saw that as a risk, capable of waging war internally. They were working off of the collective knowledge of the Greeks, Romans, and more contemporary writers like Voltaire, Hobbes, and Rousseau. They didn’t have the next 250 years of political philosophy that would develop that we know today.

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      17 hours ago

      I heard once that project Cascadia (wherein the west coast separates from the rest of the US) was a Russian-backed effort to destabilize the west and… I hate to say it but I’ve been like “fuck it, you won, get us out of here.”

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      19 hours ago

      Agreed. As a Canadian I should not have to protect my democracy from the president either.

  • Match!!@pawb.social
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    19 hours ago

    every presidential democracy consistently suffers from a takeover by the president. it is an Internet flaw in presidential systems