i don’t want any section 31 stuff because the very concept of a rogue black ops terror group being necessary to maintain a peaceful galactic society goes against everything i enjoy about star trek
It wasn’t the worst movie I’ve ever seen. It was just the worst star trek movie I’ve ever seen
S31 works when it’s a rarely seen clandestine group of a handful of individuals working in the shadows.
Not when they’re a moderately known branch of starfleet with the subtly of a 2x4 to the face
I think Section 31 as a concept is really quite lame, like a covert division of Internal Affairs of the de facto Galaxy Police organisation?
It was just Sloan who was so well written and was so well performed that made it a fucking brilliant peek at Section 31.
I think Section 31 as a concept is really quite lame, like a covert division of Internal Affairs of the de facto Galaxy Police organisation?
Not internal affairs, CIA. The Federation at large gets to keep their hands clean and stand tall morally. Section 31 comes in and fucks stuff up doing all the immoral shit needed to preserve and expand the Federation.
Federation: “Bio weapons are a war crime and morally indefensible”
Section 31: “Yeah thats great to take a moral position, but the Federation was facing extinction, so we clandestinely created a bio weapon that works only on the shape-shifting ‘Founders’ and used our own allied shapeshifter to infect them without his knowledge killing his own people to push the ‘Founders’ into submission and stop the overpowering invasion of the Alpha quadrant.”
Sisko working with Garak murdering Romulan Senator Vreenak was absolutely Section 31 material.
Sloan being IA was just a cover, S31 doesn’t actually have anything to do with IA. It’s its own thing.
They even had their hands on a fairly well respected wartime admiral (Ross).
I’m moderately curious what they had on him. But I don’t want to know.
Did we want a Section 31 movie?
The whole concept is a mistake. People are really way too cool with DS9 being a revisionist Trek thing. Maybe I’m just old enough to have thought it was missing the point at the time and now it’s been grandfathered in.
The movie was also pretty bad, though.
So much lost potential.
Uhm…yes…about lost potential (a bit nsfw):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2V6zDJyhTSU&t=0m15sYeah, Death went through some odd phases.
You could say… Blazing Sadlers
I’d cast today’s Tim Robbins as an aged and grizzled Section 31 Boimler:
Doesn’t he look like a Boimler that has seen some shit?
Good call.
As if life in the seedy underbelly has taken its toll.
Tim Robbins’ Boimler has had to make tough choices and caused many deaths. Countless deaths, but as a means to an end for the greater good. Years ago he started questioning what the ‘greater good’ was. Today he’s become ruthlessly efficient, carrying out the movements on the chessboard destroying whole worlds and cultures so that others could continue and thrive.
Still screams the same.
Absolutely, but he does it when he’s committing unspeakable horror like launching a weapon wiping out an entire intelligent pre-warp civliziation so that the Federation can find the planet and mine it for a rare ore.
Just wanted a movie about the shady underside of Starfleet, how they operate outside the law. Got some nerfed crap instead
I wanted a cool spy story with intrigue, covert infiltration, and such. Instead I got some silly Marvel knock off with fire everywhere.
The Section 31 Movie I wanted:
“I’m a super spy and must stay incognito. Let me pretend to be the only emotional Vulcan.” - an absolute idiot
Wait, what if Star Trek but griddy and fuuuuuuuuuucked uuuuuuuuuup?!
