Irish were historically seen as lesser than whites, as part of justification to colonize Ireland, and later in the US to distance the settled and mostly Anglo upper class from the poor migrant Irish, so in every way apart from melanin, they’re on the non white side of history.
That’s hilarious, I don’t think it’s really debatable. My sympathies to Ireland and that’s a national question, but racially speaking I don’t think people would consider the Irish to not be White. Besides, the Portuguese and Greeks and so on are also not thought of as being non-White. Ital*ans aren’t real so that’s irrelevant.
Oh, my bad, I was confused then by the title. Is this then saying that Irish, etc. aren’t White and part of the cool group?
Irish were historically seen as lesser than whites, as part of justification to colonize Ireland, and later in the US to distance the settled and mostly Anglo upper class from the poor migrant Irish, so in every way apart from melanin, they’re on the non white side of history.
Yeah, but not anymore?
Debatable. Ireland is still partly under colonial occupation. If they were equal whites, why not let them have their whole country back?
That’s hilarious, I don’t think it’s really debatable. My sympathies to Ireland and that’s a national question, but racially speaking I don’t think people would consider the Irish to not be White. Besides, the Portuguese and Greeks and so on are also not thought of as being non-White. Ital*ans aren’t real so that’s irrelevant.
Yeah exactly. Irish were once considered non-white by British and oppressed.