• Tinidril@midwest.social
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    1 month ago

    550,000 medical bankruptcies each year, most by people with health insurance. 45,000 unnecessary deaths each year for lack of medical insurance. When the system works as designed, Americans still pay twice what other countries do for similar levels of care. A health insurance CEO was gunned down on the street and 69% of Americans put the blame on the insurance company, and 17% find the killing “acceptable”. None of this is disinformation, and all of it is indefensible. Your description of it as “imperfect” is an obscenity.

    That’s the state of the current system and, as I pointed out, the Democratic establishment has done everything in their power to sideline any calls to seriously reform it.

    How often do you do/say this?

    I don’t know. How often do you create straw men to argue with? It’s neigh impossible to criticize the Democratic establishment for anything without getting the “bOtH sIdEs” nonsense, no matter how far from it the argument actually is. It’s what comes from having a Democratic party that can’t credibly stand on it’s own and must always fall back to “at least we’re not Republicans.”

    I already said that “the average Republican is basically Hitler”, so I don’t know why you feel the need to continue telling me how bad they are and what evil things they try to do. Still, it makes me wonder how far you think Obama would have had to compromise to get a single Republican to vote for the ACA. At the very least, Obama is guilty of insane levels of political incompetence. What kind of President loses a Supreme Court seat and barely bothers to fight for it? We are seeing now how much power a President can have if they choose to exercise it. Obama should have just put Garland on the court and challenged Congress to remove him. Congress gets to advise and consent, not sit on a nomination for over a year because they don’t want to do their jobs. Instead, it took until the last year of Biden’s presidency for the Democrats to stop pretending that Republicans were acting in good faith.

    I blame most people for trying to make things like healthcare so fucking politicized.

    Now, you suddenly sound like a Republican, or at the very least a clueless establishment Democrat. The word “politicized” is like the word “wizard”, it’s a legitimate word referring to a nonsensical concept. Nothing can be politicized because everything is already political. This is language Republicans use to make establishment Democrats run from the field of battle, and it works every single time.

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      Ok dude, I’m not doing this. It’s a free country and you’re allowed to believe whatever you want. If you want to believe Obama worked with the Heritage Foundation to create the ACA, that’s cool.

      If you want to use a quote taken completely out of context, to show it proves that, I’m going to assume you’re trolling on behalf of the people you’re pretending to despise.

      • Tinidril@midwest.social
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        How often do you create straw men to argue with?

        If you want to believe Obama worked with the Heritage Foundation to create the ACA, that’s cool.

        Well, I guess that answers that.

        If you want to use a quote taken completely out of context,

        I’d argue that it wasn’t taken out of context at all but, even if it were, that would be better than making an argument up for you then storming off. If you don’t want to have a conversation, then don’t insert yourself in one.

        I’m going to assume you’re trolling

        You do that a lot? (Yeah, I guess that one is trolling but you really worked hard for it.)

        Expecting Democrats to beat Republicans by being the lesser of two evils, or by trying to work with Republicans hasn’t worked since the 90s. There is a reason that Republicans have taken over as the “party of the working class” and the party of Gen Z. The Republicans might lie constantly, but at least they talk to people instead of talking past them. Democrats forgot their core constituencies existed, so those constituencies forgot about them. The path out of this mess isn’t to shake our heads and think “sure is a shame more people didn’t vote Democrat”, it’s to push Democrats to lead with a vision that wakes people up and gets them excited to build a better country.

        I’m happy to leave it at that.