• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    That’s why everyone in the federation is so happy; perpetuatal orgy after glow. Lol

  • ButtBidet [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago
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    I used to wonder about the morality about doing a Barklay and having sex with the likeness of someone else in the holodeck. But then AI deepfakes came and the reality of it just seems terrible.

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      8 months ago

      It’s not moral. Not much to ponder there. Imagination is it’s own thing but bringing it into reality and holograms are real holograms, they’re part of reality is when you need to ask. Shouldn’t have even been an option to do on the holodeck by programming anyway

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        Obviously you’re right, but my pre generative AI thinking was “hey I wouldn’t mind if a stranger did it with my likeness so maybe it’s fine.” But I’m a white guy, and the reality is that it’s just another tool that dominant groups will use to exploit marginalised groups.

        The TNG crew were very forgiving of Barclay, and that probably affected my opinion on the matter.

          • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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            yeah but that’s not just doing the thing, that’s doing the thing and then bringing it outside and talking about it

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            if someone out there is cranking it to me for some reason that’s their business and it’s none of mine unless they make it a problem for me like pointing and laughing with their friends about it.

            i don’t think the humiliation part is making much specific difference either, if someone fantasizes about worshipping me I don’t want to hear about that either and it would be shitty if they called me “your majesty” in person and insinuated it was a sex thing.

            in my mind the problem is the sexual harassment and the harassment doesn’t happen until it actually happens

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            8 months ago

            They really should have had restrictions on what holograms of co-workers or such can be programmed to do. If you need a bridge crew for some training exercise or whatever it makes sense but really any recreational purposes should just be a nope for holocopies or co-workers

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        8 months ago

        Yeah, and they’ve had them for a long time, so even leaving the obvious moral argument the clear psychological danger of interacting with simulacra of real people should be well known. But perhaps Barclay’s case really is genuinely unusual and (hopefully) would have prompted a wide-ranging review of holodeck ethical programming that we’d only see more about on some purely hypothetical Star Trek: San Francisco.

        I could see social interaction practice with simulacra being of therapeutic value when used appropriately under the guidance of an actual therapist. Which probably should also need the consent of the person who is being simulated.

        Perhaps also for command simulator practice and other tightly defined scenarios.

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    Wait you’d use it for that? I’d just use it for fighting and combat scenarios like the danger room. I really am a weirdo in real life. i-cant