“This message brought to you by those that sat out of the last election and directly caused all of this chaos”
GTFO with this nonsense
Personally, I am not so much against voting in general, because some forms of direct democracy work imo.
Representative democracy seems to me that it is not working as “advertised”. Having the “choice” of voting between 2 terrible options which are both sold out to corporate interest, doesn’t seem like a great societal model to me. Nowadays, one of these two options is often a fascist, an extreme nationalist or something along those lines. So even, if people vote for the one that is not fascist, the argument still stands (rephrasing it a bit): we cannot not vote our way out of a system in which the politicians work for those who funded their campaigns, instead of the people who voted for them.
To be fair, “representative democracy” isn’t exactly what the US is experiencing at the moment.
Between the gerrymandering, the lack of ranked choice voting, the unlimited spending allowances by Congress (they could write a law limiting spending by private corporations and declare corporations “not persons”, but have not done so), which keeps the two party system afloat, it’s an insult to “representative democracy” to call the current system in the US such a name.
I understand your frustration because we live in the same world, but I see things a bit differently.
Representative democracy is when people vote every few years for politicians to represent them in a parliament and create a government. As long as this takes place, the system is working fine. That said, representative democracy does not protect a society from politicians being bought from corporations, nor from a 2-party system. Apart from that, it’s through representative democracies that fascists get elected, historically and currently.
So I would argue that representative democracy is democracy in name only.
I just read the following article and since it’s on the topic that we were talking about, I thought you might want to take a look at it.
Which election are you talking about? There are so many all over the world and usually a person can only participate in one or a few.
You posted the meme: which “democratic” election are you talking about?
For me its relevant to the german context. I dont believe that we can abolish capitalism and destroy this hierarchical society by voting. I think other people might connect with this meme via a different context.
Yaaaah I think there’s value to understanding how voting is but a part of making a just world, but to ignore it completely is simply foolish and counterproductive. I think it needs the outlook of an accelerationist to think that it’s truly useful to avoid participating in bourgeois elections.
Do you seriously expect there to be fair elections in the US in 2028?
You’re refusing to see what you need to do because you don’t like the choices of those that set the stage. Your comment is no better than those you criticize.
I do think we should not ally with accelerationists like OP and this Community, because they define themselves by the intent to endanger us to make the status quo more intimidating for centrists. But even broken clocks are right twice a day, and this is one of those cases.
I am not entirely sure what to expect, and neither do you, because neither of us can predict the future.
I do know that in past elections, the message that “your vote doesn’t matter” or “both sides are the same” lead directly to the situation we’re in right now, which is what my response was addressing.
i expressed my extreme anxiety about the situation today to the shrink and he told me we’ll just have to vote better in 3 years and i almost lost it on him
•vote better•
Di… did I use wrong ink?
DO NOT BOYCOTT THE VOTE AND YOU WILL BE REWARDED!
Absolutely!
Gonna need the memes too!
