In the United States, wealthy individuals like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are allowed to dominate the country’s politics and economy. But there is another way.
“The most successful socialist nation in history isn’t doing things exactly the way I, an ignorant western leftist, think are morally pure. Therefore they are evil!”
I get your contempt, but there’s a fair and lively discussion regarding Chinese socialism. Calling oneself socialist while dealing with Israel and while not struggling harder against the yoke of western Imperialism, is morally difficult. If it all ends up in socialism and China actually pulls through with Marxism, anti-imperialism and socialism, then maybe it will be worth it, but I don’t see a problem with criticising the morally gray parts of Chinese socialism.
The issue is that you then play into anti-communist narratives if your critiques are as simple as “China should already be a 100% socialist economy or else it’s not ruled by a socialist government”. Westerners who level such base critiques often do not have the full understanding of history, let alone Chinese history, that got the world’s largest communist party to this point. This is a simple case of western chauvanism ahistorically abusing the most progressive nations in the world for not measuring up to their grade of “progress” which has been used time and time again to attack those who’ve done the most to bring a better world.
I agree with you and hold hopes for the future in regards to China, and that this is often brandished in public opinion as an anticommunist argument. That said, mindful discussion of these moral standards (which other countries like the USSR or Cuba have generally observed) and the future we want from China is a good thing in my opinion within leftist spaces
I asked a genuine question on the last time this article was posted and was insulted and down voted. Your “take” contains more assumptions than my snarky comment on this post.
“The most successful socialist nation in history isn’t doing things exactly the way I, an ignorant western leftist, think are morally pure. Therefore they are evil!”
Brilliant take, sir.
I get your contempt, but there’s a fair and lively discussion regarding Chinese socialism. Calling oneself socialist while dealing with Israel and while not struggling harder against the yoke of western Imperialism, is morally difficult. If it all ends up in socialism and China actually pulls through with Marxism, anti-imperialism and socialism, then maybe it will be worth it, but I don’t see a problem with criticising the morally gray parts of Chinese socialism.
The issue is that you then play into anti-communist narratives if your critiques are as simple as “China should already be a 100% socialist economy or else it’s not ruled by a socialist government”. Westerners who level such base critiques often do not have the full understanding of history, let alone Chinese history, that got the world’s largest communist party to this point. This is a simple case of western chauvanism ahistorically abusing the most progressive nations in the world for not measuring up to their grade of “progress” which has been used time and time again to attack those who’ve done the most to bring a better world.
I agree with you and hold hopes for the future in regards to China, and that this is often brandished in public opinion as an anticommunist argument. That said, mindful discussion of these moral standards (which other countries like the USSR or Cuba have generally observed) and the future we want from China is a good thing in my opinion within leftist spaces
I asked a genuine question on the last time this article was posted and was insulted and down voted. Your “take” contains more assumptions than my snarky comment on this post.
Brilliant… uh, take?
We don’t have downvotes, so uhhh
The other sub this article was posted in does have down votes. I was referring to that post.
then why are you asking people on this instance about something that happened on another instance?
“I have depicted my snarky comment as the Chad wojak, and your snarky comment as the Soy wojak. I am victorious.”
Real question: would you rather live in:
a country with billionaires and a strong welfare state helping its citizens
a country with billionaires and NO welfare state that lets its citizens suffer and die?
In this example, 1) is China, 2) is the USA. There is no third option, not at this point in human history. So tell me, which is better? 1 or 2?
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