I understand, I am sorry I didn’t mean to be defensive, to be clear, this isn’t just like a U.S. thing, there are whole major influenes to this car that I don’t know that well either because I know the U.S. import equivalents less well or have never heard of the cars that never made it to U.S. shores.

I understand what you are saying though, most of the time when someone is talking like I am talking they are acting like you thought I was acting lol, point taken there.