Palestine Talks | In conversation with Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro on the origins of Zionism
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In his second appearance on “Palestine Talks,” Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro discusses the troubling psychological origins of Zionism and how it actually reproduced, rather than turned against, anti-Semitism. This would later be reinforced by prominent Zionist figures such as Vladimir Jabotinsky, who expressed utter disdain for Jews who adhered to the Torah, including its principles of non-violence and respect for human life, while promoting cruelty as a “virtue.” Undermining this requires – in Rabbi Shapiro’s view – that Zionists themselves undergo “deprogramming.” This involves them coming to see how they have been falsely indoctrinated as to what Judaism is, as well as how that has led them to engage in unnecessary violence for Israel. For Rabbi Shapiro, a Jewish state is actually a “liability” to the Jewish people. Subscribe: http://trt.world/subscribe Livestream: http://trt.world/ytlive Facebook: http://trt.world/facebook X (Twitter): http://trt.world/twitter Instagram: http://trt.world/instagram TikTok: http://tiktok.com/@trtworld WhatsApp: trtworld.com/whatsapp Telegram: https://t.me/trtworld Visit our website: http://trt.world

(Mirrors.)

In Orthodox Judaism, we’d rather […] run than fight—in the martial arts, they tell you the first thing is to avoid a fight—we avoid a fight no matter what, and this the Zionists looked at as cowardly. We don’t consider it cowardly. We consider attackers, antisemites… you know, imagine a person surrounded by lions, tigers and bears, stuck in his house and […] they’re besieging him. Can you imagine a human being saying, ‘All right, let’s go out and fight; at least we’ll go down fighting, at least we’ll take some of these animals with us!’ That doesn’t make any sense, and yet […] in the world, in the human condition, that’s considered a noble thing to do: ‘If we’re going to die anyway, instead of just waiting here, let’s take some of them with us! Let’s go down fighting!’ That idea of going down fighting? No.

A human being that wants to kill people is an animal—is worse than an animal, because [with] an animal it’s not his fault [that] he’s an animal, but these are worse—there is no shame in being attacked by an animal, and there is no shame in being […] attacked by an evil person. […] You only feel shame if you assume there’s some type of competition between you and the attacker: you’re the loser, he’s the winner.

Well, winning and losing, to us, no, that’s not the form that we play. Winning and losing only applies to spiritual attainments and the person’s goodness and things like that, but we weren’t interested in this. It wasn’t […] an accomplishment to be a fearsome warrior. We don’t have towns that are holy towns or we don’t even care about places of battles such as the Alamo for example; in Judaism, there’s no such thing. The Bible, like I said, is full of wars, but the places of those wars don’t interest us. The Zionists changed this.

  • Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 month ago

    This was a really good talk. Key ideas that stood out for me were that zionism is internalized anti-semitism and a reversal of every anti-semitic stereotype to a pathologic degree. and zionists intentionally inflict psychic trauma on their on children to keep that pathology in place.