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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 months ago

Al Jazeera: "It is not Trump that betrayed Ukraine. Those who set it on a path to full-scale war with Russia did."

www.aljazeera.com

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Al Jazeera: "It is not Trump that betrayed Ukraine. Those who set it on a path to full-scale war with Russia did."

www.aljazeera.com

☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 months ago
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It is not Trump that betrayed Ukraine
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Those who set it on a path to full-scale war with Russia did.
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    russia is the correct and only answer.

    ukraine was literally no threat to russia. no ‘western’ or european nation is a threat to russia if russia would just gtfo and quit invading its neighbors.

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      ukraine is not a threat to anyone, but the united states is and ukraine let the united states fool it into thinking they could join the american side despite geopolitical hazards like russia and trump or warning signs from history like latin american; the middle east; or europe after ww2.

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      Russia is the correct and only answer only if you’re utterly clueless of history and geopolitics.

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        Oops, what’s this?

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

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          Oops. what’s this?

          https://responsiblestatecraft.org/us-russia-nato/

          https://natowatch.org/newsbriefs/2018/how-gorbachev-was-misled-over-assurances-against-nato-expansion

          https://truthout.org/articles/us-approach-to-ukraine-and-russia-has-left-the-domain-of-rational-discourse/

          https://truthout.org/articles/noam-chomsky-us-military-escalation-against-russia-would-have-no-victors/

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements

          50 prominent foreign policy experts (former senators, military officers, diplomats, etc.) sent an open letter to Clinton outlining their opposition to NATO expansion back in 1997:

          George Kennan, arguably America’s greatest ever foreign policy strategist, the architect of the U.S. cold war strategy warned that NATO expansion was a “tragic mistake” that ought to ultimately provoke a “bad reaction from Russia” back in 1998.

          Jack F. Matlock Jr., US Ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987-1991, warning in 1997 that NATO expansion was “the most profound strategic blunder, [encouraging] a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat […] since the Soviet Union collapsed”

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      NATO encroachment is a threat to Russia.

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        Not really.

        It’s a threat to Putin, who is the greatest threat to Russia.

        Just look at how many Russians are dead for his war.

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          Take a look at Libya to see what happens when NATO helps depose the leader.

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              You’re literally talking about how NATO is a threat to Putin, the leader of Russia.

              I’m just saying, look at Libya to understand what happens next.

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      Whatever happened to NATO’s guarantee for Ukraine’s security if they got rid of their nukes?

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