• Soviet Pigeon@lemmygrad.ml
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    3 months ago

    I read now about it on Wikipedia.

    Why would men or women hate/love this film, it is some robot stuff which tries todo some moral things. Maybe I am out of the loop idk.

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      3 months ago

      The point is that men view and treat women as robots to use as they please. The movie is about a “robot” (woman) escaping the man controlling her and finding her agency

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        3 months ago

        Ah ok, I understand now that it serves as an example for real life problems, the whole robot thing. Is this movie offering some perspective?

        Also, I find one has to be careful by simply stating, what men and women do, behave and how they are or what they like or not. It can get reactionary very fast, if the origin of it gets ignored. In his work “The Woman and Socialism” August Bebel pointed often enough out, the whole differences of how man and woman are/were treated and how they tend and tended to act between the actual classes and classes existed before. The origin of family from Engels is also great about this topic. This is one of the important points, which makes the difference between liberals and marxists, regarding the “liberation of women” (Includes today more then women ofc).

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          I don’t really think it’s offering anything new. I enjoyed it and would recommend it but it’s mostly just a fun dark comedy.

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      I can’t speak for that. I didn’t read about the plot to about spoilers.

      It’s important to note that wikipedia editors cannot be trusted to pick up on subtler themes, etc. There is this famous Shaun video about wikipedians getting Ex Machina wrong where he says that

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      both men in the movie treat the sentient femme robots in selfish ways even though they are antagonistic to each other.

      So that movie (coincidentally also about robots) is also somewhat critical of men. But wikipedia did not interpret it that way.