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Angel [any]@hexbear.net to vegan@hexbear.netEnglish · 4 months ago

"Ah, you seem to care a lot about animal death, but what about all the mice and bugs that get killed for your soy? I don't see you saying anything about those animals dying, now do I?"

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"Ah, you seem to care a lot about animal death, but what about all the mice and bugs that get killed for your soy? I don't see you saying anything about those animals dying, now do I?"

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  • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    But soy is also grown to feed cattle, so if you eat meat then you will kill even more of those cute critters. Never understood this reasoning, do they think cows are able to photosynthesise?

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      They genuinely believe that cows are all grass fed and don’t know that even pasture raised cattle are, by vast majority, supplemented with or ‘finished on’ soy and corn.

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      do they think

      typically, no

  • dat_math [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Nonvegans lecturing vegans about the nuances of veganism really is evergiven

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      In the sense that they should be thrown into the Suez?

  • BeamBrain [he/him]@hexbear.netM
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    lmao I came across this exact argument in the wild just the other day. The kicker comes at the end when the author’s bio reveals that

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    She’s a fucking troop

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      This one fills the entire carnist bingo jfc

  • AshenWolf [she/her, kit/kit's]@hexbear.net
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    My friend who brought up this exact same point when I brought up veganism before I was vegan, and is surprised every time we meet again that I’m still vegan.

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    a few days ago my mum said “all the water that goes into making your soy is a much bigger problem than me eating me*t”

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    What even is the reasoning behind that argument?

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    • BeamBrain [he/him]@hexbear.netM
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      Are you vegan?

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        Are you not? I’m surprised when I meet anyone who cares about social justice who isn’t vegan. If animals don’t matter I don’t know why humans would. Humans are animals. If what differentiates us from fascists is meaning to include all humans in our chosen in-group that’d make us no less barbaric with respect to the rest of life.

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          I’m a moderator on c/vegan, of course I’m vegan lmao

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      There is no perfect comment.

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