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Arthur Besse@lemmy.ml to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 5 months ago

Luigi Mangione ID'd as person of interest in UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson killing

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Luigi Mangione ID'd as person of interest in UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson killing

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Exclusive | Person of interest in fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson ID’d as Luigi Mangione, an ex-Ivy League student
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The person of interest identified in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an anti-capitalist former Ivy League student — who liked online quotes from “Unabomber’’ Ted Kaczynski rag…
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  • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]@hexbear.net
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    lol which one of us posted about not wanting them to be found bc they’d have some incoherent ass ideology? Come collect your prize

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      the cassandra medal for the worst kind of being right

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        Joys of being a materialist lol

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      I mean the type of person to do assassinations would probably have a nuts incoherent ideology. I think most communists can think of more productive/worthwhile political activities to do than assassinating one CEO.

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        shy assassinating two CEOs??

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          • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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            More.jpg

      • Quaxamilliom [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Yea, I personally post on twitter at least 2 times a day.

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      I kinda saw that coming too. Both guys that tried to kill trump also had an incoherent ideology

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        No for sure I 100% assumed this was gonna be the case too. This is what America produces lol

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          I’ve done some local work and basically the only other people that show up at city council meetings are libertarians that shout incomprehensible things at the councilers

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            I don’t think anyone would reasonably expect that it’s just there’s a difference between assuming this to be the case and having it confirmed and reading his dumbass thoughts lol

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    • Des [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      i didn’t post about it but it’s been haunting my thoughts for 2 days now. just praying he would become a ghost

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]@hexbear.net
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        Absolutely gutted he didn’t fuck off to a non extradition country

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        Same but I didn’t want to say anything and rain on any parades.

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      It seems pretty coherent to me, what am I missing?

      Mangione had a particularly personal reason to hate the medical community — its treatment of an ailing relative, sources said.

      And then he cripped the unabomber instead of writing his own manifesto

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        I’m talking about his ideology in aggregate not just his motivations for the assassination. He’s got a lot of goofy reactionary takes that are all over the place coming out as people comb through his social

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          Yeah I just saw his twitter and it’s bad

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            Apparently he had spine surgery or something and had chronic back pain like honestly it’s crazy shit like this doesn’t happen more but all that aside, he is by all accounts a total goober

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      much prefer that he’s kinda cringe than a UHC CEO who lives

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      What is coherent ideology? Is it even real?

    • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]@hexbear.net
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      I said this half-jokingly 5 days ago

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    imagined motivation: class war against health insurance executives

    actual motivation: revive shintoism?

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      Me seeing all his brainworms coming to light and trying to desperately gum up the holes that he might actually not be a comrade.

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        Simply the result of coming to be within the brackish, toxic morass of American intellectualism

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      “we need waitresses so guys can hit on them and later impregnate them”

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          That being said, he says Waiter not Waitress. Kind of putting words into the post to assume it’s about hitting on waitresses.

          Yeah, my reading of the tweet is that Luigi thinks if people would get used to interacting with people through being served by a person instead of a conveyor belt, maybe people would socialise more and couple up more? Which is still reactionary but not super weird

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            Marx talks about how markets create material relations between people (via markets), and thus a “social relation” between commodities. The Adjuster falls into this fetish.

            Whence, then, arises the enigmatical character of the product of labour, so soon as it assumes the form of commodities? Clearly from this form itself. The equality of all sorts of human labour is expressed objectively by their products all being equally values; the measure of the expenditure of labour power by the duration of that expenditure, takes the form of the quantity of value of the products of labour; and finally the mutual relations of the producers, within which the social character of their labour affirms itself, take the form of a social relation between the products.

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          You’re talking about different bullet points, I’m pretty sure that mudpuppy is referring to the second bullet point, and that you’re you’re referring to the 4th bullet point.

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          i don’t think you’re reading it right

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          Only if they’re dressed as maids.

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      Honestly, do heavily stigmatize maid cafes, that shit weird and misogynistic

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        I’m glad I didn’t know they existed till now. I’m upset that I now know they exist.

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          I don’t think the problem is specifically the outfits. There might be a point to be made about french maid outfits being fetishized, but I don’t really know enough about them to say anything. If you swap those for any other outfit and cafes are still misogynistic and creepy.

          See also: Hooters

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          nah plz destroy things

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      It’s extremely funny to compare this to the menswear guy doing threads about how the modern Japanese(or at least Tokyo) urban environment is the only place small scale organic fashion culture can thrive anymore.

      Also conveyor belt sushi is a societal plague worthy of one of 5 bullet points on your stupid little list? And the reason its bad is you aren’t chatting directly to a food service employee? Not just a weirdo but a really fucking stupid and annoying weirdo.

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      Encourage sex

      I’d hate to tell you, but it didn’t work out well for the last guy

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        I adore the idea that the guy hated Shinzo Abe for trying to get people to fuck

        jon-yell STOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

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          yamagami welcome to the volcel-police

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            Duel between Luigi Mangione and Tetsuya Yamagami over whether Japanese people should have sex or not

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            The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.

            نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

            volcel-police

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      actual human interaction with a waiter

      I go to restaurants like this somewhat regularly and I don’t think it’s done anything to improve my mental health or social life?

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        Judging by all the other stuff this guy is into I bet his reasoning is that he’s completely brainwormed on pickup artist redpill shit and thinks that the waiter interaction will give men chances to apply that bullshit and get laid.

        Or a funnier alternative is he’s brainwormed on like trad romance media with like relationships starting out of being a regular at a diner or whatever.

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          Cheers-based ideology

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      Oh he’s a reactionary moron

      (Fr tho get rid of maid cafes but like broken clock)

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      did this motherfucker just come for my kaitenzushi

      he’s just made an enemy for life

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      Calling Don Quixote a grocery store is like calling Costco a hotdog joint.

      I don’t think they had sex stuff at Donkey

      I would have sooner compared conveyor belt sushi/Matsuya/matsuya-likes replacement for fast food as opposed to a replacement for a sit down restaurant (of which there are plenty) and therefore erring you towards socializing

      If there were a bunch of eSports cafes I must have missed them - especially in Akihabara (where you can find a really nice climbing gym where people talk to you).

      The elementary schools I saw had very large outdoor facilities and after school athletics

      The history and current events of the Yakuza isn’t my bag - I also here weird things about cishet relationships in Japan, so I guess that this one gets a tentative thumbs up from me

      I would sure as fuck love more martial arts available in Japan. I had trouble finding judo while I visited. I think you can find temples fucking everywhere as well as onsen.

      I don’t know comrade, Luigi’s Mansion sounds like a bit of a tourist.

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      Seems like he’s not calling for a return to shintoism, but just a return to a culture that isn’t poisoned by capitalism. I dunno I feel like I could see most of those things being said on hexbear without people batting an eye. He’s not against immigration, he’s saying that Japan has a systemic issue that would continue even if immigration was allowed. Don’t know if I agree, but I can follow the logic. He’s saying the modern urban environment is ass, which we have an entire comm dedicated to saying. It is ass.

      edit: okay I saw his twitter and it’s ass

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        I really feel like even in this example tweet you really have to reach to argue this. Yes, all his complaints boil down to a core causation by capitalism, but that goes for at least half of any reactionarys political beliefs.

        Several of the bullet points are just actually repeating dumb stereotypes, he probably only knows about Don Quixote because of Yakuza. He dedicates a whole bullet point to the societal consequences of conveyor belt sushi.

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          I can fix him, okay?

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      Have sex

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        See you space cowboy

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    Gonna be honest, kid doesn’t really look like the pictures

    Now, I’m gonna get alex-aware for a second

    Wouldn’t it be funny if they just nabbed some guy who looked close enough and was also a scrambly-brained weirdo so they could close the case?

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      He just EDC’s a suppressed pistol and fake IDs for unrelated brainworm reasons.

      The cops are amazed they only have to plant the manifesto and get to side hustle all the other incriminating evidence.

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        Manifesto’s only two pages because that’s how much they had time to write. The last paragraph is just a bunch of “lorem ipsum”

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          Wait until someone is caught because their manifesto is AI generated and chatgpt has the logs of them making it.

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            Or the feds have day zero access to the database yeonmi-park as all companies in the country are required to have.

            And then they swap out logs with planted or manipulated evidence just like Minority Report.

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            Or the feds have day zero access to the database yeonmi-park as all companies in the country are required to have.

            And then they swap out logs with planted or manipulated evidence just like Minority Report.

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              And then they swap out logs with planted or manipulated evidence just like Minority Report.

              Like I keep telling people, full-disk encryption isn’t just about stopping others from reading your data, it’s also about preventing falsified evidence from being planted.

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        You would honestly be surprised sometimes

        Growing up in Wisconsin, my buddy had five fake id’s to buy booze with

        My other buddy had a sawn-off shotgun they turned into a whip-it gun with a homemade suppressor

        I’m just saying, there are a lot of weirdos out there, wouldn’t be hard to find one to lay blame on

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        He’s just really into his “I am Spartacus” bit

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      Extremely slim chance this is actually the guy, but I can’t wait to see what he and his lawyer have to say. My guess is this feller was in NYC that morning, owns a silenced pistol and is of similar build. He looks like the photo from the back of the cab, but that guy didn’t look like the same person from the shooting video.

      Very risky move for the cops if it’s not the right dude, can you imagine how bad it would look for them if he brained another CEO on video?

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      pepe-silvia They picked up the guy at the lookalike contest with the most incoherent twitter page

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        data-laughing

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      Wouldn’t it be funny if they just nabbed some guy who looked close enough and was also a scrambly-brained weirdo so they could close the case?

      Seems more likely that they pulled the most similar looking guy out of their list of known weirdos.

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    luigi-dance he’d finally had enough

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      Stays winning as best Mario Bro. but for real, so fucking wild. Look at the difference a comrade makes to some random groyper who shoots up a kindergarten. Dude was smart, an athlete, and well read, and he ices a ceo and becomes a folk hero to millions.

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        His goodreads does not have me very optimistic that hes a comrade lol.

        https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/55354261-luigi-mangione

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          Atlas Shrugged

          NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOO

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            I mean I want to read it so I can laugh at it. That said, our guy here probably wasn’t going to laugh at it.

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          He gave four stars to Uncle Ted a-guy

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            its so funny to give the unabomber manifesto a 4/5. like what you have notes? its not quite the perfect manifesto???

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              I remember watching a documentary on him and they had a montage of interviews where there was one environmental activist being like “He was right about all the stuff but he shouldn’t have bombed people.”

              Which stuck with me for being very funny given that the manifesto is in service of justifying bombing people.

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              “Could’ve used a better editor”

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            I d e o l o g y

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              honestly? no ideology, just pure vibes

              I don’t think this man has brainworms because even worms require oxygen to live

              where there should be grey matter there is just a void studded with chat-GPT prompts like the twinkling ghosts of long-dead stars

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            It’s pretty common for right wing nerds to use the unibomber manifesto as their one single, token piece of “leftist” theory they’ve engaged with so they can pull the old "unlike you I can read books I disagree with smuglord "

            I think it’s mostly because 1) it’s edgy 2) no real leftist movement developed from or even has been attached to it, so it’s harmless to them and 3) he spends quite a lot of it ranting about feminists from what I remember

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          God damn, that’s a lot of self-help books.

          Him falling off of Harry Potter after like three books is pretty funny.

          Also noticed a-guy

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            honestly ted was a stupid asshole, he mostly killed academics and he blamed technology for things that could be entirely attributed to capitalism. his legacy is the idea that the only alternative to how we live rn is caveman

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              Genuinely just a reactionary fascist in his social views, it’s really easy to tell if someone has not read the manifesto past the opening if they try and argue that he’s either a leftist or outside of standard politics, cause basically his first complaint is he’s not allowed to use insensitive terms for women, black people, and asians.

              Because of woke.

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                “I wrote you as a wojak and me as a chad” - Industrial :a-guy: and it’s Consequences

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              Yeah, to be clear I’m not pro Ted, I just think it’s funny how ideologically inconsistent is this guy is.

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            its ok, he balanced it out with Musks biography lol.

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          Gotta get him into noname 's book club when he’s in prison.

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          Why does he look like Dave Franco 😂

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          Hillbilly Elegy

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          His last quoted book is The Lorax tho

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    This is his Twitter. Fall of Rome, Richard Dawkins New Atheism posting, how TikTok is a secret “CCP” weapon to destroy Western capitalism, oh yeah baby https://xcancel.com/pepmangione?lang=en

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      Idk how to but has someone archived his Twitter account? We know they’ll take it down

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        i just went to “save as” in firefox. at least saving the front page of his tweets

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      What if he accidentally got the CEO of UHC and TikTok mixed up?

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        Funniest possible turn of events

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      Ah fuck

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    Luigi Mangione is the fake ID name right? No way he’s name is Luigi’s Mansion

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    yarviny rw accelerationist incels go brrrr

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    Can’t believe a McD’s worker snitched… you are not getting paid enough for that

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      Yeah there’s a reward that’s why they snitched

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        but they were getting paid by Mcdonalds, ISN’T THAT ENOUGH FOR THEM?

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      They’ve been reward with a free 5 piece nugget with the purchase of a meal and one 15 minute free break card. /s

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    Median US voter

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    person if interest is still a bit off from suspect, but let’s assume the show is over and the NYPD has the right guy.

    would we really prefer it to be a leftist with coherent politics and some explicitly neo-Galleanisti exemplar?

    I’m more of a Schrodinger’s Propaganda of the Deed guy. if they are uncovered and caught, let them be a weird reactionary spouting gibberish.

    if they escape identification and capture the imagination, then they are the perfect insurrectionary folk hero.

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    please don’t be a zionist
    please don’t be a zionist
    please don’t be a zionist
    please don’t be a zionist

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    Considering the brainworms im surprised he chose such a good target

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    And of course the tech bro does it for incomprehensible reasons

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    smh. He should have went into a whattaburger. No one would have ratted on him there

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