(Reminder: if you have shared the original version in a public post with an old version up, replacing it with this one might be more helpful.)

I want to preface, if you see a mistake in the image or have something helpful to add, go right ahead! I still have the layered files for this, so edits can be made very quickly. I chose to handwrite the text to avoid font copyright infringement.

Feel free to share this poster as you wish, especially on Reddit. All I ask is that you respect the license and don’t remove my socials at the bottom. If anyone’s addition is included, I’ll credit them, and if this gets added onto (or translated) by someone else later, they can add their info as well.

I hope someone can find it useful with the subreddit blackouts right around the corner.

I want to thank the Beehaw admins so much for their amazing work!

(Poster edited; I spotted a duplicated word, mrmanager@lemmy.today noted the lack of whitespace; current version is slightly larger and has been spaced out. You can still request the 800x2000 size, but know it is a little squished.)

(Edit 2: Removed defederation part as it’s not really required. The email analogy blackcoffee@beehaw.org suggested has been added, thanks!)

(Edit 3: Here’s another version making the interconnectivity a bit clearer and mentioning some cool-looking reader apps that have been suggested! Also made the image slightly longer for ease of viewing. I might do some small cosmetic changes tomorrow)

(I’ll put out Edit 4 tomorrow, which will include the date the edit was made, will clarify mlem only being available through TestFlight, will mention other Kbin instances, as well as a reminder to confirm emails with any new signup in a timely fashion. Thank you all for the help and tips!)

  • CosmicGiraffe@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    3 years ago

    I wouldn’t bother with the concept of de-federation in a beginners guide. One of the most confusing bits of the fediverse to new users is picking a server. For most users, the one they pick doesn’t really matter, but talking about defederation makes it sound like a really important choice.

    • unsunny@beehaw.orgOPEnglish
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      3 years ago

      Edited; the defederation bit probably shouldn’t be the reason why someone picks a server (my original thought was that someone who is LGBTQ probably won’t have to worry about seeing phobic content from another instance, for example), but chances are if the rules make a place inviting to a group, conflicting (or illegal) instances will probably be defederated anyways.

  • mrmanager@lemmy.todayEnglish
    1·
    3 years ago

    Needs a bit more whitespace to not be a wall of text in my opinion. But looks good in general!

  • OmegaMouse@feddit.ukEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Can someone clarify for me - can I ‘add’ a kbin community to the Lemmy instance I’m on in the same way as any other community? For the first time I’d need to type !news@kbin.social for example (if no-one else had already added that community in my instance)? I ask because I tried to do that, and it doesn’t come up under the listed communities. But maybe that’s because kbin is overloaded?

    • azdle@news.idlestate.orgEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      Yep. You just need to search that exact example (or just the URL) and it should pop up a little link where you can view that community from your local instance, which’ll have a subscribe button.

      You might have tried it while kbin.social’s federation was broken from being behind cloudflare for awhile.

      • Captain Apathetic@lemmy.captainapathetic.cfdEnglish
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        2 years ago

        On my self-hosted instance since communities need to be searched first before they show up I tried using the normal Lemmy format for kbin but noticed for the first time you must format it like this: kbin.social/m/*magazine* (or whatever kbin instance if not that one). Even if not self-hosting this can apply to kbin mags that are fairly niche/new and may have to do that for it to show up especially on smaller instances

  • Deemo@bookwormstory.socialEnglish
    1·
    2 years ago

    Quick question is there normally a long federation delay between kbin and Lemmy?

    For example while making a post/comment may be instantaneous, I noticed when using the edit feature for comment title there is a massive delay (6+ hrs sync delay for title change).

    Curious is this common or more of a one off

  • SmugBedBug@lemmy.iswhereits.atEnglish
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    3 years ago

    Really like it, sadly I don’t think the people I’d share it with would be willing to read through it. I’ll try with word of mouth for now and use this as a backup.

  • metaltoilet@beehaw.orgEnglish
    0·
    3 years ago

    Wow! I was going to make a guide but this is so much better than what I could’ve made.

  • Lionir [he/him]@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    3 years ago

    Thank you for your work! I wonder if this could be updated to include join-lemmy since it just points people to kbin.social. That might be confusing if they’re trying to find a Lemmy server or well, simply other instances in general!

    • unsunny@beehaw.orgOPEnglish
      0·
      3 years ago

      Thank you, I didn’t expect this to take off like it did! I explained in another post here why I didn’t name join lemmy for the guide, but the thread is getting pretty long. There are instances listed on there fairly high up with descriptions that suggests the instance hosts and permits illegal content (the instance is not FMHY or related to piracy as I also noted), and I wouldn’t feel good about recommending the website because of that. browse.feddit.de didn’t have anything of that nature on their list as far as I can tell by scrolling for a few minutes, and it also tells you which instance hosts the community.

      • not_a_dog@lemmy.oneEnglish
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        3 years ago

        Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is Kbin just another Lemmy instance or a whole separate thing entirely?

        Thanks for the guide!

        • JohannesOliver@beehaw.orgEnglish
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          3 years ago

          That is not a dumb question.

          kbin is it’s own thing, originally it couldn’t talk to Lemmy. It can also have its own instances. Today it can talk to Lemmy and Mastodon and should be able to talk to anything else that talks to them. It also has its own communities, and people on Lemmy can access those as if it were another Lemmy instance.

      • Pigeon@beehaw.orgEnglish
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        3 years ago

        If you mean the instance that promotes itself as NSFW allowed and “shota/loli/cub friendly”, it’s my understanding that fictional drawings of that type are not illegal, at least not in the states (presumably laws vary between countries on this). It’s certainly not something I’d ever want to be within 10 feet of, but there’s an ocean between that and actual child abuse materials (and the instance in question does explicitly ban such materials, per a quote of the rules I saw in another thread about this). I don’t think it necessarily follows that people into the former must also be child abusers, same as I don’t think furries are automatically into beastiality.

        But nevertheless I agree it’s… not a good look at all for that to be front and center on the join page. It could have and should have been removed a while ago - it’s been up long enough I believe the Lemmy devs must be aware of it, so I’m suspecting they just don’t care.

        I think the join page also made generally offputting by Lemmygrad and arguably even Lemmy.ml, too, frankly, and since those are the lemmy dev’s instances, there’s no fixing that until and unless they end up just outnumbered.

        tl;dr: I support you not linking join-lemmy, but I wonder if we have an alternative site that people can use to browse and choose an instance somewhere? If not, could someone make one?

        Edit: an alternative would be especially helpful since redditors, lacking a direct link, will inevitably just google “lemmy” and immediately find the join-lemmy page anyway.

        • unsunny@beehaw.orgOPEnglish
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          3 years ago

          Thanks for the reply; regardless of whether it’s actually legal wherever a person is/where the server’s hosted (Canada has stricter laws pertaining this type of stuff, not sure if it would cover what’s going on there), it still has a definite ‘ick’ factor I am not comfortable with, and I’m glad to know I’m not alone I’m thinking that! The ideology of the Lemmy devs and the Lemmygrad instance are also highly questionable at best, and while there’s not much we can do to keep the join Lemmy site off of the Google results in the short term, not spreading it further is a good idea.

          There’s not another easily accessible mobile-friendly actual directory I know of; I put the browse community page as a next best thing. I think I vaguely recall finding some all-Fediverse-instance site, but that is was very broken, crowded, and unusable on mobile.

          I’m not code-savvy at all myself; I’d really love to see another, more filtered directory that would be more appealing to the average person!

        • ntldr@beehaw.orgEnglish
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          3 years ago

          Is lemmygrad actually run by the devs? I haven’t been able to find any evidence of this.

  • PCChipsM922U@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    3 years ago

    I want to preface, if you see a mistake in the image or have something helpful to add, go right ahead! I still have the layered files for this, so edits can be made very quickly.

    Why didn’t you mention Jebora or the iOS app? People are into apps, makes things easier and quicker. For example, I never would have transfered to Lemmy if it wasn’t for Jebora.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      0·
      3 years ago

      Small correction, the app is Jerboa.

      I 100% agree, and the existence of a mobile app is the main reason I picked Lemmy over kbin. I also like that the backend is in Rust, vs PHP in kbin, so I’ll feel more comfortable contributing since I’m more familiar with that ecosystem. That probably doesn’t matter to the average user though, but the app existing certainly does.

    • e l f @lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 years ago

      Absolutely! I feel like it sums everything important up cleanly and easily digestible.