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sawne128 [he/him]@hexbear.net to electoralism@hexbear.netEnglish · 7 months ago

As votes are being counted, De la Cruz overtakes Oliver in the California presidential election.

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As votes are being counted, De la Cruz overtakes Oliver in the California presidential election.

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sawne128 [he/him]@hexbear.net to electoralism@hexbear.netEnglish · 7 months ago
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  • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    143000 votes for a guy with literal brain worms who isn’t even running for president anymore

    This is why any talk of democracy in this country is pointless without systematic mass education.

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      Or you change last name of your candidate to be kennedy free-real-estate

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      Love is Blind endless marketing budget

      • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        That show is BS. Everyone is conventionally attractive which ruins the point of the show!

  • miz [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    bourgeois state put IND instead of PSL

    • nandos_house_of_glues [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      they rightfully feared what would happen if white people saw PSL as an option (they love pumpkin spice)

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]@hexbear.net
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      i mean more likely the PSL registered her campaign as independent because the barrier for registering as a political party is higher

      • miz [any, any]@hexbear.net
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        she was listed PSL on the California ballot

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          Technically she was on the Peace and Freedom Party, not the same org but they have ballot access in CA so they accepted de la Cruz as their candidate. Still, it should at least be PAF or something.

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            ah okay. I knew she wasn’t listed independent

          • TrashGoblin [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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            Here in [Southern State], de la Cruz was on the ballot on the [Southern State] Workers’ Party. You do what you have to for ballot access.

        • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]@hexbear.net
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          oh okay in that case death to america and death to decisiondeskhq.com, as usual

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    • BeamBrain [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      the shit show around Cornel West

      I’m out of the loop, what happened?

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            https://xcancel.com/CornelWest/status/23848928873021440

            Cornel West

            8 Jan 2011

            Ronald Reagan was a freedom fighter in terms of supporting our Jewish bros & sis in the Soviet Union & opposing vicious forms of communism.

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    • jack [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      It’s not like PSL’s platform is at odds with the Greens in any way.

      The greens are not ready to be pro-China. However, they should still do it.

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        Is PSL even strictly “pro-China” tho? Of course they have critical support for them as a multi-polar force and are very opposed to escalating tensions with them since PSL is anti-war. But I would imagine that the party still has its criticisms of Dengism in a purely ideological sense.

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          We have criticisms of the height of the Dengist era’s backsliding and corruption, but fundamentally the Dengist program has proven correct, and the Xi era has been a demonstrable commitment to the socialist project. There’s no point in purely ideological critiques - we need a materialist analysis.

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    This might a small W but it’s a W nonetheless. The Libertarian Party is the most popular and best organized third party in the US, by a long shot. They have decades of work put in, not to mention ideologically they are very compatible with (white, middle/upper class) American superstructure. And Chase Oliver is objectively their best candidate they’ve fielded in maybe ever. He’s articulate and is good at emphasizing the least bad aspects of the ideology, like being anti-war and anti-MIC. For a Marxist-Leninist party that’s only gotten big recently and doesn’t even focus on electoralism, that’s honestly a great showing.

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      Though, this seems to be the Libertarians’s worst election in a while. I wonder where their voters went. Surely they were aware that Kennedy dropped out?

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        Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t, they are libertarians after all.

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        It doesn’t matter that someone “dropped out”. Third parties are a way to have your political views counted. Same as voting for PSL or the Green Party.

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    wait, GOP is their official party acronym? Grand Old Party? The Dem party is older lol

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      Naw, they used to be one party, the Democratic-Republican party. They grew out of the Anti-Federalist Party and outlasted the Federalists. In the 1824 election, they were the only party in the US. They ended up fracturing in two, creating the Democratic party and the Whig/Republican party.

      The full severing of the political parties would occur just prior to the Civil War where Whigs splintered over slavery while Democrats supported it. Anti-slavery Whigs and Republicans consolidated together as the Whig factions further separated from each other.

      So the “Grand Old Party” is a splinter faction of a splinter faction that can trace its roots back to the original parties of post-Revolution America. Republicans and Democrats are technically the same age.

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      Idk, screenshot is from 270towin.com

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        It is, I just looked it up, strange. I also learned that the color red wasn’t strongly associated with them until 2000.

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          I also learned that the color red wasn’t strongly associated with them until 2000.

          This is the weirdest and most infuriating of all the empty little symbol stuff. Historically election maps just kind of used random colors in the US because none of the parties had traditional color associations, but because one newscaster talked about “the red states” when pointing at a map where Bush was represented with red and the states in question were literally just colored red on the map, now the GOP has the left’s color and the Democrats have the traditional color of elite reactionaries and as stupid and meaningless as this is it’s just so annoying especially because the Democrats really do just want to be snooty aristocratic elites and they do insufferable left punching based on associating their even-more-reactionary liberal counterparts in the GOP with the left to smear them.

          It’d be like if American political parties somehow adopted the hammer and sickle through some galaxy brain “hammer=judge’s gavel=law and order” and “sickle=agricorp subsidies” logic: meaningless and empty, but offensive appropriation all the same.

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            Yet another way to sever the connection between the US and the global left to have the color red be associated with conservatism. Just like how the US celebrates fake Labor Day instead of May 1.

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          And here I thought it was weird seeing the blue Trump signs and green Dem signs this past election. Guess it’s never made sense.

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    It’s Chase Ol-Over joever

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    The real red shift

  • Tomboymoder [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.net
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    COMMUNISM IS HERE!

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    in the california what huh? didn’t that shit happen? liz-society who care?

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    Chase Oliver

    John Oliver’s distant Texas cousin

    (he is 39 years old)

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    BRB, moving to Sacramento to organize.

    • qaopjlll [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      We also voted to legalize slavery, limit rent control and increase prison sentences for drug possession

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        This has been an absolutely devastating election in so many ways.

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    Whoah hell yeah. And nearly 50k? Does that mean commiefornia is responsible for half of PSL’s votes or has the total gone well past 100k?

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      Something like 125000 so far.

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        Nice!

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    Being right on the cusp of 50K is genuinely huge for American leftism

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      PSL has gotten 125k nationwide

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      In one state

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    What really causes our ballot counting to be so inefficient? Is it some legally protected company grifting the shit out of it like TurboTax or something else?

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